Carmen Smith Studer – https://www.youtube.com/@CarmenSmithStuder

9 September 2023

second usually oh and we’re live we are rolling with idolatry in the temple and
Gina Phillips is in the house I have literally I I went back in my emails to
see when was it that I first reached out to you and it was in May of 2021 and you
were super busy at the time I had a ton of stuff going on so gracious and
wonderful rejection that you gave me but you did say that you would reach out
um eventually and here you are and it’s so wonderful because um one of the people that my subscribers
love the most is Amanda buys and I would not have known about her if it weren’t for you so I have to give you credit for
that and I remember when you said well I can’t do anything but you seem really
interested you should look into you know Amanda buys and Canaan Ministries and I
did and I was obsessed and I watched all of her videos in a very short period of time and then reached out to her and and
she blessed me with also she she wasn’t available for months and months but I finally got her and and we do regular
work together and it’s so fun and it’s all because of you thank you oh my pleasure and um yeah please know that
taking so long to get on has nothing to do with me being all that special at all but anybody that works on this front
line is managing crises and busy it’s Anything could happen at any time so I’m
glad it worked out for us well just for the few people that might not know who you are if you could share
um a little bit about your background and why I would have even reached out to you
well I am a retired as of like two years ago licensed professional counselor
um I practiced in the state of North Carolina in the Raleigh area um my specialty was dissociative
identity disorder and um Satanic ritual abuse and about 15 years ago I was
actually somebody that um I consulted on a lot of cases in my county that I lived
in um so I was like a specialist for SRA and dissociation so I
would people would seek me out for consultations and this one little ladybug that I was Consulting
um was somebody that you guys if you watch my videos know of is Galaxy and
she is was a bloodliner of the 13 Illuminati Bloodlines you know full
blood liner programmer working in the government and I was Consulting that case with her therapist and long story
short I began I learned from her that Satanic ritual abuses you’re going to be
hard-pressed to find somebody that’s not also what we call a ritual abuse
government-sponsored mind control so beneath the Satanic ritual abuse memories you will find
government-sponsored programming and so um uh in the deprogramming of Galaxy she
taught me what I you know all that she knew about that and then the Holy Spirit taught me a whole lot more and we’ve
just been on this journey so um I retired two years ago I I treat exclusively the Mind Control survivors
some call it MK Ultra same thing you can use it those survivors and um I have a
Ministry called Darkness Delight Ministries so we help people free of charge we have donations we do
everything from paying rent to you know I’ve had some people from other nations come and live and you become their
family um so I you treat them for free right it’s awesome awesome thank you so much
for your work and it’s it’s really fun to um to see how people really have
opened their minds to this you know I think a lot of times and this is why
when you were like well what do you want to chat about I my first reaction was I would love for the church to know and
when I say the church I I use it openly because I’ll be honest with you
um there’s 4 500 sects of Christianity there’s you know this person and this
person didn’t agree and then they went to the church down the street or they started a new one because they split on
this and they split on that and you know as a new and I’m not a new believer but
I can’t imagine if I’m lost in all of it trying to navigate what’s truth and
what’s not sincerely from my heart seeking the truth um I can’t imagine how overwhelming it
must be for someone who’s new and then to add this horrific and wicked layer of
having the church infiltrated um and I just thought there’s no one bad
to share what the churches should know and and at least you know I know there’s
some Churches out there that are infiltrated completely but there’s some that aren’t and it would be really
beneficial for the body of Christ to know what you the information that you have to share
I would love for your comment on that because it is overwhelming for anybody I
think that is a new believer to like how do I even do this correctly yeah and and the churches have only and
they’re far they’re hard to find but um you know 15 years ago when I’m doing
this I was ostracized and you know made to be unstable and you know a Croc yet I
had this huge group of people behind me saying help me right we can’t go to the
church we can’t get help they don’t believe us they can’t help us and so it’s only been since you know the whole
Trump time when he came in office and things I believe biblically we entered into that time where it says at the time
of the end that everything that was hidden will be shouted from the rooftops and so things started changing I believe
that prophecy was and continues to be fulfilled you know the stuff that I’m
going to share with you today it’s been here all along it goes back to the Garden you know you write you
dissociation and using it to program is in the Egyptian Book of the Dead like it goes back that far it’s been perfected
but it’s always been around and so now that the church can see with their eyes
that people in high places are not what they seem they’re beginning to open up
and people are reaching out but the church and I was trained back in
you know the 90s the early 90s I got born again in 1989 I was in college
about age 25 and you know I learned the normal
Deliverance stuff like Derek Prince and some of these people where it’s you know come out in the name of Jesus but the
devil over Millennia has learned how to entrench himself into people in a way
that it’s not that easy like the demons are the easy part it’s what people want to hear and these victims of Mind
Control are the most demonized people on the planet but the demons are hidden behind
dissociative walls and so anytime I say the word dissociation or dissociative just think amnesia
and so trauma is used to split this children’s minds and guys this is not
just like Galaxy that’s being programmed where you’re a bloodliner with many generations of satanic practices
luciferian they’re doing they’re cranking out thousands and thousands of
children in daycares and foster care and preschools and you know my daughter was
a victim of that in preschool okay so like I’ve lived this myself
um but the way that they’re demonized they use trauma and they’ll shatter the mind
because that’s what happens and you develop what used to be called multiple personality disorder
but if so let’s for the sake of illustration let’s say here’s how they um why you can’t just say come out in
the name of Jesus right the demons would go but they’d come back so if you have somebody that’s mind is
split the cult knows if I hide a program which
is a script like a somebody that would be like a Manchurian Candidate and I put a horrific memory to split the mind in
front of it that person would have to go through that horrible memory again
to get that part of their mind back that split off and most people don’t want to do that and most churches won’t walk
people through that the average person doesn’t want to listen to those kind of traumas and so you end up with a person
with a shattered will so usually there’s thousands of Parts but let’s just say there’s a hundred
so you have these people that are really Christians because you only have to ask Christ into one part of your heart right
and and we’re all in process of more of our heart going to Christ so you have a
Survivor who has multiple personalities and their front part loves Jesus goes to church worships him but that’s only
let’s say that’s one tenth of the person they’ve got like you know hundreds of other parts that are maybe loyal doing
other things and they don’t know about it so you have a divided will and so the the church is going to have
to learn about dissociation they’re going to have to learn about how um our
soul can be shattered it’s even in Scripture it says a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways when you look
up the double-minded it means double sold if you look it up in them and so
imagine that with hundreds of parts that’s in scripture the double-minded double-sold man is unstable in all his
ways so the church has to learn this if if we don’t no one will right Jesus says what
are we supposed to do we’re supposed to heal the sick raise the dead and drive out demons nobody else is going to do it if we
don’t we are the healers we are God’s representation his hand so if the church
doesn’t do it nobody is not fully and I was a clinician and I saw that they are
really good with understanding the mind and all the academics but they don’t deal with the spiritual side of it and
then you go in the church and if you have somebody that halfway understands the Demonic and did they have no idea
how to do the psychological the human attachment part of it like the clinicians so that’s sort of a drawn out
answer but does that make sense yeah and so that that brings me to like my own mind split
um so I have on one side this this total respect for people who don’t believe in
Deliverance and I understand why and I I get it but it Deliverance is different
than counseling um but I I would love for you to answer to that but then I would also love as
I’m listening to you I’m thinking okay let’s say I’m you know Susie Homemaker
um and love the Lord and I want my church to understand this I would love for you to address directly if a pastor
happened to get this video and he had never really considered any
of this what would you like to say to them so I know I just asked you two questions you can answer in any order
that you would like well I mean I would first say to them go to my website and watch my video
called Mind Control overview my website is I have to look I got so
many things it’s Gina hyphen Phillips with two ls.com and so the main video I
have there it’s called Mind Control overview and so that gives you an idea of how the
mind control Army works to be honest with churches here’s the
way I see it I’ve been trying for years to train people to deprogram and I run
into problems that’s why there’s not many of us one is because the level of
warfare like you’re taking the devil’s Army the most demonize people on the planet you are
going to be berated okay the Warfare they will be parts that love you and parts do in Witchcraft and
sex rituals in your yard okay you know to to cast spells on you so people you
got to be walking with God you have to be totally surrendered nobody’s perfect I’m not trying to act like I’m not but
nobody lasts long so I get all these people coming in and they bail out because their lives they get cancer they
get crazy stuff crazy stuff so so and then the other thing is it’s
really complex and and I’ve had to study I’ve still study and most people aren’t
willing to put the time in it to be honest most people come into it the novelty of it and they don’t realize how
hard it is so I don’t know I’m sort of in this place now after trying to train people
and I have a small handful of people that I’m working with most people won’t put the study the time
into it right I’m thinking what’s really going to happen for the future D programmers is going to be these people
that Amanda and Dan and me and others have walked all the way
they’re the best missionaries they have bills when you said that I literally got chills I look at um I look at Cheryl
back and we’re doing a series on the green bomb speech she’s just reading it aloud and sharing her personal testimony
it’s amazing and I would also um suggest people watch that if they want to know more about mind control
but the church’s role I’m seeing now is they need to come back to being a community and a family again because
these people must have support the research shows that people won’t deal with these really tough memories without
proper support and it’s unethical for me to open up somebody’s dissociated trauma
if they don’t have somebody to walk them through it right a lot of Ministries go in I start first with stability Let’s
Build You Up support so I have groups I have groups that teach about attachment and how attachment whether you gotta
have it whether it’s somebody in your church family or counselor that person must have established trust where they
can be totally open and they have that support and so churches need to learn the basics about
mind control but I see them more as being the support they are meant to be a community that lives life together we
are to Bear one another’s burden and so then it takes only a few people to deprogram but the day-to-day life these
people once you start breaking down the barriers of these trauma memories they can’t work right they have periods where
they can’t function sure they need family so it’s going to take us all
coming together we are far from it right now but I believe well scripture says we’ll get there
well it can happen in a twinkling of an eye too right you know good things and bad things can happen quickly
do you know of anyone who is ever just between them and God healed themselves
it’s possible and that’s so cool that’s what but they need a paradigm for it see
here’s the thing like if I don’t think that God heals I’m not going to position myself for healing if I don’t believe he
saves and so the reality is people’s minds are split they’ve astral projected
into other Realms and are held in captivity right they don’t understand their whole selves right their right
hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing so what I’m finding is the people that I was deprogramming like Galaxy my
daughter and others early on this the programming that is pulled up
now was deeply buried and so they had to go through brutal years of memories to get
healed but right now we’re in a time where the powers that be the upper the
handlers they are about to uh Reef uh what’s the word I’m looking for
fry the old way of programming the old world programming and they’re pulling
that up those early splits and parts it was like princess programming were parts
that were the early splits with the most power were sitting in castles that kind of stuff it was deeply hidden before now
it’s front and center and so everybody’s right there at the beginning and I learned over the years if you take out
the beginning programming all the other stuff Falls away okay and so it’s not
taking 12 years right I’m seeing people go so fast but they need a paradigm they
have to see how programming the base programming set up be we have support to
go through the memories and yes I’m seeing those that are highly motivated to walk with Christ do it on their own
because that’s who God is but they just thought they were making it up it was a dream right yeah that makes me want to
cry because to me I I do feel so strongly for these people because I I
think deep down inside we all know and I think that when they realize what a mess it is out there how do they know who to
trust there’s people that they can go to that will re reprogram them and and so
it’s it’s very very complex they have hearts still and they want
they want to put them someplace safe right they don’t want somebody hijacking their heart again and so
um any suggestions for vetting someone good you know what there is no shortcut to
trust and this is something Christians we think that because somebody says the word I’m a Christian that we just let
all our walls down and jump in and that’s hogwash um and so trust has to be earned you know
you you test somebody a little bit don’t throw all your stuff out there see how they handle a little right and if
they’re trustworthy you build on it and so I teach survivors that I teach the church that
um Jesus had the 70 the 12 the three and then John beloved was the closest he got
to lay his head on Jesus chest that’s levels of people that are get to get
closer to Christ that’s a boundary that’s earning Trust um which is what we should do for all
relationships it seems like people most understand it with business in business they’re just you know
checking the bottom line looking at your bank statements but oh you know this is my life okay I’m gonna just tell you
everything um and and that’s where the danger comes um and then I also know that some of the
splits can tell on themselves or tell them they do reporters yes yes and so
um as far as the church goes and maybe you feel like you already answered this with saying please look at my website
for the Mind Control overview um is there anything else that you would say to a pastor that was listening or
somebody who is in charge of some sort of ministry to create Community around
these people um to inspire them
to inspire them to what to help oh yeah yeah I mean if first they have to
to know what it is so I think I did a pretty decent job in that video of the overview and so I think that people’s
eyes are opening I could walk into your church in any church and I guarantee that I could pick out survivors I just
start speaking about it and I have lines at conferences they come to my hotel room like you know they’re everywhere
but they’ve never said and so you got to say do I believe this so look up what I
what I did and what people like Amanda and others are doing and say do I believe this and then you’re going to
need to learn about did like find there’s many Ministries teaching about did right now
you don’t have to deprogram you just need to learn to support them right and so a good way is I’m like again I’m
training some Churches how to do support groups that are just for survivors here’s the thing Survivor sabotage each
other so the they need to be able to share with other survivors what they’ve been through because nobody understands
it like another Survivor groups help break shame it helps them to find their voice again they can come to people in
crisis but all survivors sabotage one another they do witchcraft against each
other so you must have somebody responsible hosting a group like I have a forum where I have Administration that
they can talk but nobody when you start seeing somebody trigger you know if you’re sitting seeing people in in group
you know when you do it and they’re doing the side posturing different coding to each other you can shut it
down and go no we’re not going to do that you don’t have to do that here right right so they need monitors while
they’re together that lets them all have a positive experience with one another they can’t I don’t advise anybody to
leave them alone so you’re going to need people in your church that are willing to do stuff like that
they need to be able to um share the truth too many churches do
this because they don’t know any better the memories when you start to get behind the dissociative walls you’re
going to have Parts come up telling some of the most graphic stuff and these parts like it here’s the thing
you’re going to have parts that worship Satan because Satan came forward when they were hurting and they made it look
like Jesus was you know just impotent and didn’t care so when you start having Parts come up
that they’re like I love Satan I worship Satan I hate Jesus I don’t want anything to do with him or they’re speaking of
bestiality and how it meets a need most Christians want to say all right I heard it but let’s shut it down forgive them
forgive them and you can’t do that you’ve got to give that person time to
own that part of themselves that they walled off right and you can’t do that in when they just get a little tidbit of
it you’re talking about making the brain that was split making new Pathways to
connect that traumatic information sure so it’s going to take a lot of change in
the church can you bear can you listen to that see a person who has never healed their
own wounds are not comfortable with others emotions most of the church hadn’t dealt with
their own stuff I agree I think this would change marriages too um uh Cheryl Beck calls it bringing back
all the littles and I I I like that because it was all done very young and
um each one of those those personalities are probably just little kids coping and
surviving and creating guardianships but I don’t know because I’m not I’m not
where you are with it what what’s your comment on that so you have the the hmm so there’s the
littles yes but there’s more you have adult perpetrators it is always every
multiple is set up with two opposites you’ll have the daytime innocent good
side and the dark perpetrator side always and so actually the gold is
getting the dark side that most people want to shut down because so let’s say that you have a kid that is just being
shamed and shamed and shamed and they do that to split your mind well it’s going
to split off and the child will eventually after being shamed gets totally ticked off and they fight back
and they’re mad as hell and they want to kill right they do that so then you got this divided mind and that person will
split back and forth when they have shame when it gets full the part that fights back hates and has
Rage that’s the parts that go to the rituals it’s coping mechanism they split
the Mind always so you’re going to have the Christian part in the Satan worshiping you’re going to have the shame and the Very prideful without a
conscience part and we’ve got to be able to deal with both so you have to foresee and imagine a
person’s soul that’s where the programming is we are made up of Body Soul and Spirit and so the soul is your
mind your will and emotions imagine it like a mirror and you sh it’s shattered with trauma so when that person’s trying
to put their mirror their soul back together they have to really examine a piece they pick it up what shape is it
this is looking at their trauma why is this part wanting to worship Satan well you’re going to find out that they felt
like they had no control so what I’ve learned is with all of these dark Parts
they were just little children who were trying to meet a legitimate God need but
they met it in a sinful way right so we have to teach them over time well what
was the need you know I was you’re dealing with somebody what need did that part that’s so dark how what was it
looking for now how can we learn to meet that in a legitimate way
and it’s going to have to be building back relationship with both man and God
right it wasn’t good for Adam to be alone God couldn’t be all for man he
said because if he was he wouldn’t have made Eve he said it wasn’t good for man so I don’t like the churches that say all
you need is God just go to God no God said we needed man too so you got to work on the relationship with God and
man it’s not it’s not just this big instant thing right God can come in and
heal if the will see here’s the thing you say can he do it instantly he can if that person’s will says yes but they’re
so traumatized their Will’s afraid doesn’t know to do it even you know
um there’s somebody here that had put on here that they um were open with a pastor and it brought on a lot of
additional trauma and that they were thrown out of four churches and I would probably suspect that that would be a
normal reaction um only because I think that if they
don’t know what it is they think this person is probably disruptive or and
it’s I think that’s another thing I would love for you to share with pastors or people in charge
of ministry on on what that could look like instead of
throwing someone out now of course like we like we discussed sometimes the churches are just infiltrated and
they’re trying to read damage but for the churches that aren’t um what would you try to warn them of
that could keep them from feeling like this is crazy and I know you overcame it
because people used to think you were I was kicked out of churches too friend
but but I want to share both sides because here’s the wounded person is going to sometimes be hurt because
they’re being triggered and they see things um that are rejection that are not and
then you have pastors who don’t understand and they are um
they don’t know how to handle it so remind me every question I totally
forgot what would I say rather than throwing somebody out what what kind of and I do like that you said that it is a
two-way street and so maybe there’s some things that you could tell survivors on how not to get kicked out of a good church
because you know I because they’re hurt here’s the thing if you’re in a church
whether you’re a pastor or somebody and you work with survivors you must be willing to understand things like the
the language when this Survivor is going to say I love you I hate you come near
me leave me the hell alone right they’re gonna you’re gonna be confused they are chaotic in their mind they will bring it
to you once they start letting you in you’re gonna see how crazy and non-functional their world is they’re
not crazy but the the chaos is and so a lot of pastors go something’s wrong with
that person that’s what trauma does okay and so they need to to try to find
somebody to learn what trauma is is okay and know that when this person trusts
you when they start to reach out to you they are going to do everything to push you away
so it takes I call it spreading your Sunshine around you need a team of people
that’s I’ve made that up 14 15 years ago it’s like because no one person can do
it all and and or very few people are willing to walk through that way so it so
pastors you’ve got to learn about trauma and you’ve got to deal with your own trauma and so you have to learn this is
God’s intention he says that iron sharpens iron when you’re in relationship with them
you got to know that they’re going to be triggered when you do something so minor
and it’s going to be a big deal to them because piggy backing on it is every attachment figure they ever had I had
somebody last week call me in the middle of the night thinking they could just wake me up and talk to me about Jesus
and when I tried to schedule them an appointment like they’re burning up my phone right and they got so triggered
that they were rejected and they’re crying and then it turned to you disgust me as a Christian how could you you know
all I want to talk is about Jesus they don’t know what I did all day right but I got up the next morning I told him I
was like here they kept calling hanging up I just turned the phone off the next morning I contact the person I go here’s
when I can talk I said you know I would enjoy talking to you after they said I was disgusting as a Christian to them
and and um offer to talk with them but I said now here’s what you can’t do you can’t act like you’re in crisis in and
shame me and humiliate me right they didn’t call me back but you’ve got to be able to do those kinds of things yep how
many Christians are willing to do that not many well most won’t even do it in their own families with minor trauma
yep so what’s the problem the church doesn’t look like Christ right and it’s
a tolerance level um but it’s also an ability to detach in a very healthy way like one of the
things I love about watching your interviews is you still laugh and and
and literally spread Sunshine even though you’re talking about such serious
content um and I’ve always found that that just was who you are at your core you’re just
this beautiful soft sweet but strong Christian you know and and
when you don’t have faith in someone I think it’s scary
so one of the things I learned from working with my guys out of jail was I had to have faith in their ability to
connect to God and heal themselves as well as supporting and consistently being there and you know here I am you
know years and years later over a decade later and they’re now coming to me going thank you for being patient with me I’m
sorry I threw that thing in your house or you know I’m sorry I threw my phone in the pool or you know whatever
whatever the crazy thing was um but you I think people take it
personally so if you don’t deal with their wounds right so like it didn’t bother me that she said I was a
disguster as a Christian because she doesn’t know that I give almost every waking hour right and it didn’t stick
right and so you know people in the early years you sit and you give them
your money your time you know you do it with a fever and you’re sick and and and they’ll say things like it’s not enough
because what are they’re doing they they think that you can take away the pain you can’t they keep trying everything
like practically to crawl inside of you but you can only hold their hand and walk them through the pain right and so
if I have a belief inside when somebody if I’m doing it for the wrong reason because like I’ve learned I’m loving
Jesus I’m walking through the suffering of Jesus I’m comforting my Jesus when
I’m there with them I’m not doing it for their approval I’m not doing it for anything but my Jesus if you can to the
degree you can do that when they throw and cast all there’s this versions you they don’t stick right but if I think
that I I’m if I think I can heal them if I put that responsibility on me and they
say you’re not doing enough you’re whatever then I’m gonna run away because that hurt my heart I got a wound right right
exactly and so if you can’t be triggered um it just you’ve already healed in all
the areas that they’re gonna attack you and you can be like lifetime like I
would be with Galaxy and this is what I’m teaching a lot of my ministers they know how to do Deliverance but they
don’t understand this part when when you’re trained in graduate school there’s something called a transference counter transference so you learn to
compartmentalize you sit there and you’re there for the client right then but if they hurt you and and it makes
you want to run go back to your support group and figure out why did it why did it trigger you so you be healing that’s
the iron sharpening iron they will find every wound you have but you must go
back to let your your support you’re going to God God this hurts me this was happens because my mother used to
criticize me all the time right do you see what I mean it must be two people working together you don’t have to be a
completed work but you must be willing to to deal with your wounds are you everybody bails 90 of them
yeah I do I believe that this would also close the gap between all of the
different sects of Christianity I think it’s the people’s wounds and and their
their their their stubbornness and and arrogance that would separate good
people right there’s obviously someone not good that’s forcing something right
whether it’s forcing false Doctrine or whatever it is and so so let’s go to I’m
just gonna I’m gonna let you just kind of take over and share what you wanted to share but afterwards if you have time
um a couple of people sent questions and I would love to to share those with everyone as well if you have time
yeah I do have time you it’s just for you so you let me know if I’m going over no I could I could do this for hours
I wanted to share um because you know this stuff sounds so far-fetched but I want to take a
scripture in Ezekiel Aid and it’s where um Ezekiel is taken by the Lord into the
temple it’s the Temple of Solomon to show that people are having a face and a
facade of of following the Lord but behind the scenes they’re worshiping
other gods and so it was happening then it’s still happening now there’s a
mixture in the church today just like there was a mixture back then and so
um in this scripture God had warned Israel through the prophets like Jeremiah Ezekiel Isaiah saying repent I
want he wants Mercy right acknowledge your wounds acknowledge your issues or
I’m going to judge you right and then you had these false prophets going he’s not going to judge just like today he’s not going to judge
us but the Bible says God slowed anger it doesn’t say he doesn’t get angry
and it is merciful for God to judge think of all the innocent people being
heard in church right now because people you might say but they didn’t know they are programmed they have Christian front
parts and perpetrator back parts he’s been long suffering and the little children cry out and he’s waited and so
Justice says we got to stop hurting our kids we got to quit propagating so it’s love I want love is not what the world
thinks it is but um I wanted to share this and so this here’s what I don’t want to happen
everybody who’s programmed has this programming in there unless for some reason like I have one lady I’m working
with she went a very short time to a preschool they started programming her she screamed cried begged her parents
and never had to go back but she had good parents she did listen to those babies if they’re throwing a fit going
anywhere there might be more to it so everybody’s going to have this programming and so the church is going
to have to be willing to not shame the person that they have this in their back
programming the Witchcraft okay so let’s look at it if you have so do you want me
to pull up Ezekiel or the temple let’s do the temple first okay and I’m gonna
explain something quickly all right let’s pull up the temple look at me I am
amazing in motion I did it [Laughter] good for you I’m impressed so I I’m not
going to get real deep into the temple but I want to show you that the temple
that was in Jerusalem was a concrete physical temple on Earth that mirrors
what’s in the spirit you know what’s in heaven it’s a shadow of what exists in
heaven and so as we became the temple ourselves
after Christ right we are a new creation in Christ we’re born again with the
Sperma of God the DNA of God and so now we are the temple so there’s the
physical Temple here there’s the temple the way God’s temple in heaven is set up and then we are that
Temple so there’s three parts to the temple if you look at the top it says
the outer Court so the outer Court was a core a place where the Gentiles could come it’s not
that Holy anybody could walk and travel in that area that represents our physical body right this body is carnal
it’s not going to inherit eternal life we get an immortal body this just goes back to the Earth it’s not redeemable
and so it’s the same thing the outer court is the physical body of man
and so then you go into What’s called the holy place you see that rectangle with the menorahs that’s the human soul
it represents the human soul that’s where programming is so the common man can’t go in there you’re supposed to go
in there and be sprinkled with the blood which represents Christ right so that allows you to get into that Holy place
and if you notice here you see the the pillar of Boaz and um yakin which you
guys hear me talk about a lot in the Freemasons Freemasons are not Christians but the occult mocks the authentic they
take everything that God created and they corrupt it we’re going to see that he the devil cannot create he can only
copy what’s already there so you have the Holy place which is our soul and
then if you move further to the left you have the holy of holies and that represents the spirit of man the
born-again spirit in Christ that’s a new creation new creature in Christ so we’re
three part being just like God he is father son and spirit and we are Body
Soul in spirit and so I’m going to be talking about this Temple but we’re going to have to take it down to look at
this scripture okay let’s pull up the scripture
and then get the next one share screen
and here we go cool I’m going to look at my notes just
because I can’t see that so good but others can probably do it I just wanted people to know this is the Amplified
classic edition edition of the Bible I really like that so that’s why I went with it and I’m going to start a little
bit into verse one so it’s this this is Ezekiel speaking the prophet Ezekiel and he said as I
Ezekiel sat in my house a captive of the Babylonians with the Elders of Judah
sitting before me the hand of the Lord fell there upon me so remember the Judgment of God was that
the Babylonians took the Jews captive that was their judgment so they’re now
slaves and so ezekiel’s in his house captive in Babylon
and the Hand of the Lord falls upon him he says then I beheld a likeness of a
man with the appearance of fire this is the Lord and his ways downward was like fire and from his waist upward he had
the appearance of brightness like gleaming bronze and he put forth the
form of a hand and he took me by the lock of my head and the spirit lifted me up between the Earth and the heavens and
brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem to the entrance of the door of
the inner Court which faces the North and so we don’t have to go back to the
the temple but just know that there are different entrances and Gates and this is in the inner Court
and the inner court is going to be your soul right the soul the realm of the soul and what did he find there it says
that’s where he saw the seat of the idol image of jealousy which provokes to
jealousy so I want to talk a little bit about what that was so it’s supposed to be you’re going into the second most
whole you know the beginning holy place the soul and what is he fine there he’s finding Idols that are to provoke him to
jealousy so I’m not gonna have you go there but
those who want to study this and we should do that for anything we take Serious these days go see if what I’m
saying is true right but if you want to know what’s there what are these Idols of jealousy you will go to Second Kings
21 2. and it’s talking about the king of of Israel Manasseh
and so I’m just going to read from that I’m going to prove to you if you’ll look there you’ll see what this jealousy Idol is
so Manasseh was king of Judah and he’d placed in the temple during his Reign
Idols of Baal and ashtarte the Queen of Heaven so that’s Babylon she has many
names she’s she’s the queen of Heaven she’s astero she is um is Isis she is Babylon she’s the same
Babylon you see um Crowley and and the Golden Dawn worship okay
um and so and bail bail has many names too we’re going to look at him in a minute it’s samayal he is Aries he’s
many different things so as worshipers entered the temple their attention is arrested by these
Idols they’re going in to Worship the Lord and here Manassas put these Idols in there so it’s sort of like
trying to provoke the Lord to jealousy so imagine you’re going on a date with your bridegroom Jesus or the Lord and
you go in there to be with him but your eyes are looking at another woman right you keep that’s the goal right he’s
provoked to jealousy with these two other gods and so it says manasse did evil in the
sight of the Lord after the idolatrous practices of the Heathen Nations whom
the Lord cast out before the Israelites Manasseh built up again the high places that his father had destroyed and he
reared up altars to Baal and made an asherah and worshiped all the starry
hosts of heavens and he served them and he built Heathen altars in the house of the Lord of which the Lord said in
Jerusalem I’ll put my name and pledge my presence
um and he built altars for all the hosts of Heaven and the two ports of the house of the Lord and he made his son pass
through the fire and burned him as an offering to Molech he practiced sooth
saying and he dealt with mediums and wizards he made a Graven image of the
Goddess asherah which is the same as Babylon and said it in the house of
which the Lord said to David and Solomon and his son this this house and in Jerusalem I will choose out of all the
tribes of Israel and I’ll put my name and I’ll pledge my presence forever and Manassas seduced them to do more
evil than the Nations did that the Lord had judged wow so that’s what that
um Idol of jealousy is there it’s in if you’ve watched any of my videos that’s
Mickey and Minnie Mouse um they use that in the early program to
be Babylon Queen of Heaven and Baal which is also
Samuel so when you’re little kids you know if they’re programmed or seeing Mickey or Minnie that’s the idol yeah
and I I was reading about because I hadn’t really heard of tamus or tammuz however you say it until maybe like a
month or two ago and then I couldn’t believe it was in here where the women were crying to tammuz and apparently
that also was uh something some God that was married to Ishtar yeah he’s a
Shepherd God the counterfeit Jesus and he dies and is resurrected every year so
around the winter solstice he dies he’s reincarnated in Easter time and so
they’re weeping for him instead of Christ we’re going to get to that in the scripture so okay so um we are on verse four
hold on I gotta go there we go okay and behold there was the glory of the
god of Israel who had loved and chosen them like the vision I saw in the plane
so so if you put the verse three and four together he’s saying I saw the jealousy Idols there but also the glory
of the Lord was there so in programming the devil can never stop a child that is
meant to be born again they can see in the spirit realm your Godly Scrolls you know they consult the mothers of
darkness and you know if they know that a child is going to be saved that they belong to the Lord they’ll actually lead
the child to Christ and then have that child reject their human born-again
spirit and then they they put in captivity the presence of the Lord so I
want you to know that even in this physical temple they’re sitting there saying here’s those two Idols Baal and
Babylon but also the glory of the Lord is there too he never leaves us
survivors end up finding in the end that he never left us we’re way too precious for him but they just didn’t notice it
because the eye is on these images of jealousy um and it when he says when Ezekiel says
here that he saw the glory of God um they are just like he saw in the plane that’s referring to Ezekiel 1 28
if you want to go there um you know just after the video because I’m gonna let you do that real quick
Ezekiel because what it is he says in Ezekiel 1 28
the the vision in the plane it’s that same fiery figure that’s like bronze on fire but he says around him is the glory
of God that looks like a rainbow so the glory of God was there and you
guys may have heard um of going over the rainbow in Aus programming right almost
every major religion when they go in the other realm speak of the Rainbow Bridge you have the frost the frost what is it
in uh nordics the bifrost bridge that really exists in the spirit realm
remember these I was gonna say that’s actually in like the movie Thor and all of like where he
is from you have to go across this Rainbow Bridge to get there so Satan can’t create
the devil uses us and our creativity and our promises in God so you’re crossing
over the glory of God into the other realm and that is the same going over
the rainbow in Oz programming so imagine this here’s God who’s promised to be
loyal to you and and only you and yours promise to be loyal to him and you’ve got your girlfriend and your boyfriend
and you’re using his goods and what he gave to you to go do something that’s
illegitimate right you’re being sparked to jealousy what a thumb what a thumb in
your nose at God right um
is that where the twig The Twig in your nose or The Twig on your nose came from we’re gonna get to that that’s thumbing
your nose at God so in verse 5 it says then he the spirit said to me son of man now lift up your
eyes toward the north so I lifted up my eyes toward the North and behold on the
North altar gate was the idol the of jealousy in the entrance
and so there you go the other Idols in that place furthermore the spirit said
to me son of man do you see what they’re doing the great Abominations that the house of Israel is committing here to
drive me Far From My Sanctuary but you’ll see even greater Abominations
and so then he takes him um he says and he brought me to the door of the court and when I looked behold
there was a hole in the wall so let’s talk about this because this is going to be where you bring up Hillary
okay okay so should I should I put this one down for a minute and then go ahead
and bring her up I’ll get to her all right so stop that screen and then
start a new screen and I need Hillary
oh Hillary oh I know Hillary was on that one she just was on a different window sorry
about that guys all right I’m new to this let’s go back to Hillary there she
is do you see it I see it but can you yeah I want the mainly The Heading yeah it
looks like they’re showing the hurricane but the heading and people can um go search that out sure so I want to talk
about the hole in the wall so he goes in um to the court right and and he sees
the hole in the wall it’s not a door it’s a hole and so
this wall here is the Border it represents the border between the natural and the spirit realm because
you’re entering into the temple you’re going into a holy Holier place and so instead of going through the door
and who is the door Jesus he is right there they have a hole
in a secret place and so what that is that’s like a subpar entrance so they’re they’re going
through that wall not the way God intended them to it’s hidden and it said
it was secret and hidden and that’s what the occult means hidden secret doing things apart from God so we know Jesus
is the door it says so in John 10 it says um in John 10 it says he who does
not he who does not enter by the door which is Christ but climbs up some other way
is a thief and a robber but he who enters by the door is The Shepherd of
the sheep the Sheep know my voice and they won’t follow another and Jesus said
I’m the door of the Sheep so the doors in that Temple are made of brass and
Brass represents judgment so God intended us to go through the
doors of judgment in order to go into the holy Place Christ became that judgment for us so he’s the door and so
here’s people going into the other realm apart from Christ the door they’re
hiding it it’s not it’s in the wall it’s it’s it’s a little hole because God meant us to to go through
Christ through judgment against our sin to enter into his house and his courts
and so the whole man goes into the domain of the spirit realm apart from Christ
and it says in that scripture that he digs a hole and he forges his own own
way so what that actually is let me read it one more time it says and out you don’t
have to pull it back up and he brought me to the door of the court and when I looked behold there was a hole in the
wall and then he said to me son of man now dig in the wall and when I had dug in the wall he found
a door so I’m going to tell you guys what that is that is a pocket realm I have a video
if you go to my website on pocket Realms and so if that wall represents the
barrier between the spirit realm and the natural realm and they’re digging
through that illegally you’re not going to that realm with Christ you’re creating a pocket room
and so I’m going to tell you about Hillary and a pocket realm is created when a child
is hurt whether it’s a sacrifice and a ritual trigger warning for anybody I’m not going to get real graphic or they’re
just tortured you get enormous emotional energy and when that’s focused at that
membrane that’s all that self sets separates us it pops out like a bubble
and so something from that realm comes here and a part of your life force goes there and you create like this bubble
it’s called a pocket realm and they will begin to develop that as your domain
you’ll leave those I won’t get into how but they use alchemy to begin to develop that pocket realm so you’re in the other
realm and you have your own domain where you become your own God and a lot of stuff happens there I’ve got more
details about that but that’s what he’s talking about in this in the temple physically they’re doing it
programmed people and no non-programmed people are also doing it so let’s go to
Hillary something’s coming up um let me read first let me read on hold on let me read verse 9. and and
then I’m gonna explain Hillary so and he said to me meaning the Lord go in and
see the awakened the wicked Abominations they do here in that hole in the wall so I went in and I saw their pictures of
every form of creeping things and loathe some beasts and all the idols of the
House of Israel painted round about on the wall so children there’s something called
Museum programming and Hillary’s getting ready to announce
some art contest I’m going to tell you about that in more detail but I want you to know that
children are taught to draw pictures some of you that are older may remember an old cartoon called Harold and the
Purple Crayon or are you where he would draw things and go into the pictures or
um maybe Mary Poppins where they jump into the pictures Narnia so children some of the people I work with may have
had like our one comes to mind if somebody that had a picture of a red dragon hanging in her room when she was
a kid and she would use it as a portal to astral project
um some people have them under their bed but but this is part of what’s called Museum programming and if you guys
anybody followed some of the um using children as artwork and hanging
them on walls so your your blood liners I’m going to use one I’m gonna use Galaxy story
so so she’s a blood liner so you get all the full fancy rituals it may be done a little differently but the prints will
be the same for somebody that’s done in a school but Museum program you have like these
fancy parties and government people come in their tuxedos black tie and you know dressed up and children are hung nude on
the wall oh trigger warning okay so this is related to Hillary coming up so I’m
gonna let y’all know this is programming and so the children are hung there and so they’re walking around the rich in
the elite with their hors d’oeuvres and they get to pick which child they want for that night and there’ll be rules
like is this child Expendable can you mix them and take them all the way or is it somebody like Galaxy who’s a blood
liner and this is part of her programming so you can only do this or that and so they end up bidding on the
children but the children are Living Art and so in early programming children’s brains
are not fully developed so when they give children concrete real stuff to see
to try to put into their mind right because internally they have all of these worlds Museum programming and Zoo
programming and all of that but a child needs to see it touch it feel it so the child becomes the art I am a
portal I’m made to be a portal I’m a maid to have the Holy Spirit Come Through Me
and so the child by hanging on the wall as the arch they’re going to become that
portal later um of their strong emotions to get into that Spirit realm and bring something
over okay and so they’re beginning to teach children that things hanging in
museum and art can be used as a portal but you are the portal okay
um does that make sense and then talk about mocking God you know because we are his art where is Handy work yes we
are so going over to the Hillary article The Heading what did it say
here I’ll pull it down it says Hillary Clinton to speak at White House Event for International Arts
award okay so what she’s going to be doing is she’s going to be sending out a code for the museum programming in every
Survivor so let me tell you a little bit about what she’s going to do um so Hillary’s going to speak at the
White House Event on the 12th of September and it’s an International Arts award
it’s called the 2023 premium Imperial Laureate so Hillary resides on the U.S nomination
committee and she’s the one that recommends which of the art artists win
the awards and it’s going to be broadcast it’s going in Washington D.C London Paris
Rome Berlin and Tokyo so what that really means this is not a contest right
they make it look like a contest hold on inside of programmed armies of the world
there are certain pictures and themes and stuff in the museum that the child has incorporated in their mind
and so it’s not really like these artists are getting there are doubt they’re really putting
out a symbol right and it makes it look like a cover so so whatever they picked
the powers that be have looked at the world system they’ve looked at the wars that are happening right now and they’ve
picked a plan and they’re going to use certain pictures that are their winners and they’re going to use the speeches of
those artists to change something in the museum programming and survivors this is
going to happen September 12th so when you see this I want you to know that’s what’s happening for somebody like me or
Amanda it means get ready because you’re going to have a lot of people that are destabilized
right these events people get they hurt they struggle they have trauma because
they’re getting ready to pull up a different program right so it’s really a fake art event
and it’s a cover for releasing those codes and and continuing their foul
behaviors as is the Super Bowl halftime show as is the Grammys as is the Oscars
right as is fashion stuff right when you’re doing it they they make sure that
in there there’s language sure okay and so
the cree so it goes back to verse 10 I went in and I saw their pictures of every form of creeping thing loathsome
beasts and all the idols of the House of Israel painted round about on the wall
and there stood before these pictures 70 men of the Elders of the House of Israel
and in the midst of them azaniah the son of shapath and he was
just one of the 70 elders he’s basically going look here’s the church leaders they’re in here and they’re doing this
right and um that guy zanaya he was a false prophet he was one
of the ones when the real Prophets You Know Ezekiel Jeremiah Isaiah was saying y’all need to repent you just need to
humble yourself and let God come in right and he’ll spare you he’s going to judge Israel and so these leaders were
going no he’s not gonna he’s not gonna judge us just like we hear that now but we know clearly from scripture when this
happens and this happens and this happens right um if if you don’t repent when you
repent you’re humble and he he gives grace to the humble right the proud he
resists right absolutely and so um they had believed that God had
abandoned them and they thought he didn’t see so that’s just like happens in programming with the kids so these is
doing this in the wall and going through um to the other realm apart from God
because they thought he had abandoned him and they thought that he didn’t see and it says that they were um uh every
man had his incense in his hand and a thick cloud of incense which represents prayer was going into prayer to these
gods and then he said to me son of man have you seen what the Elders of the House of
Israel do in the dark and every man in his secret chambers of idol pictures for
they say the Lord will not see us and he has forsaken us and so the children will have and tell
me if I’m getting too graphic and am I okay on time um you’re good okay okay so so children
are made um early on in the programming they’re made to believe they’re hurt and they
have on their taunted call on Jesus where’s your Jesus but you know what God meant for our parents to over and
protect us right to oversee us and they know that that he’s not going
to come like that he’s looking to the parents to be that protector and so the child’s made to believe that they’re
rejected by God they can’t be saved and so then the Devil Comes Here Come these
demons to say let me help you they’re right there and so the child is made to
reject God at least imparted them and they they hate him because of what
they’re going through and they’ve been mocked and um they go into this other realm of
learning to go in counterfeit and to do that just like they thought that God had abandoned them
um so it says verse 13 He also said to me
yet again shall you see greater upon the Abominations which they’re committing and then he brought me to the entrance
of the north gate and that’s where you see a woman weeping for tamus who’s a Babylonian God who is
supposed to die annually and be resurrected so tamus is the same as
Osiris remember he dies in Resurrection that’s just the Egyptian form
um tammuz is the Mesopotamian form but he’s mocking Christ so in the temple he
sees them crying for this fake God this fake Christ not for the the real
the real God who was saying that somebody was saying and this is where I
I personally just I can get lost in the minutia of Christianity but there’s somebody that
was sharing that tammuz is the symbol of
a cross and that Christians um really should be
careful about idolizing that symbol and I would love to hear your thoughts on
that Satan copies everything right he has his communion and you know of blood too the
blood of Christ but yes there’s something called a tesseract and it’s too too much to get into here
um the programming that’s where you get a part of a programming called Rosicrucianism the rosie cross and so
it’s going to involve like you have the left brain the right brain and the head that’s like those um two pillars yaking
and so it’s going to be yes so you know you don’t worship the cross but yes Satan uses it for the
counterfeit got it so yes agree and so then like a rainbow
yes yes absolutely and I still love the rainbow and as we should right I believe
in taking things back not giving them up because programming’s in everything that’s why they saturate the world with
it yeah so yeah redeeming it so the most beautiful rainbow
like maybe four or five days ago and we just happened to be at the top of
the hill driving the right direction and it was a full double rainbow and we could see where it lit up the trees
where you could see where the leprechaun you know uh myths began because it literally made it look gold it was so
pretty oh wow so sorry for an interruption but I had to share that it was so pretty wow I’ve not seen it
between two trees so that’s pretty cool so verse 16 says and he brought me to the inner Court of the Lord’s House and
behold the door of the Temple of the Lord between the porch and the bronze altar were 25 men with their backs to
the temple and their faces toward the East and they’re bowing themselves down
and worshiping the Sun God they’re worshiping the sun that’s raw if it’s Egyptian that’s Apollo if it’s Greek
um so their worshiping isn’t Israel like supposedly Isis ra and
something um Elohim or something mixed well l means god and is raw L I think I’ve not
looked at it in years but I think it says Man meets God or man against God okay
um and so then we get to the nose thing um verse 17 and then the spirit said to
me have you seen this o son of man is it too slight a thing to the house of Judah to commit the Abominations that they
commit here that they must fill the land with violence and turn back afresh to
provoke me to anger and behold they put the branch to their nose
and so that Branch to their nose um if you look it up some people some of the scholars will say that it’s um an act
acting like you’re being humble by putting it over your nose in your mouth you’re not really being humble to a god
little G God and many others say that it is an act of anger that it’s like
thumbing your nose up at God and so can you see the provocation here it’s like
they’re just tempting God like you know it just they’re not loyal at all
so he says what does God say therefore I will deal in Wrath my eye will not spare
I will not have pity and though they cry in my ears with a loud voice yet will I
not hear them and I’m going to just Summarize chapter nine instead of reading it so God goes
and he says this the spirit which is God calls the individuals in charge over the city of Jerusalem he calls the
executioners he says come and he calls every man to bring in his hand to um his
weapon and to Rally before the Bronze altar and he says among the group summoned was
a man dressed in linen who carried a writer’s ink bottle at his side and then
the cloud of God’s glory which would have been on The Mercy Seat he’s lifting it up he’s going to leave the temple
from the cherubim and um and it’s lifted up so
the man that’s clothed in linen he’s told to go out to the city in the midst of Jerusalem and put a mark on the
foreheads of The Men Who sigh and groan over the Abominations that are committed
in its midst so here’s the thing I just want to say before because this is Ragnarok you guys
have heard me if you follow me that release the beast programming is going to happen God is the one who allows it to happen
God lets evil kill evil you would sit and have
um you would have when Israel would be judged you’d have like let’s say Syria come against them who is a pagan nation
and then he judged Syria for hurt and Israel right so it’s like you’re reaping what you sow let me just
say that but he says put a mark and and the Mark was back then too right this
really happened that Temple was destroyed if Solomon he’s going to do it again mark on our heads what’s the sign
it’s those who are in angst those who look at the world it doesn’t say those who were perfect okay it’s those who are
looking at the world and they see the corruption and they’re trying to let God deal with them you don’t have to be
finished there’s not a soul gonna be finished I say be in process right because people say like I’m not going to
get deprogrammed before this app you just have to be in process be found in Christ yeah right he’s that’s you having
angst over the state of the world right that’s what gives you that Mark of safety right not those who love evil who
are trying to hide it right such a difference and and um there was one verse I wish I
could remember these things stick out to me and I’m just mind blown but really the word that um came up the other day
when I was listening was God just wants us acceptable and I thought that was really cool
because that’s not staying perfect that’s not saying you know above reproach that’s just acceptable
I would say yielded yeah right because then you’d say well what is acceptable right you know what’s that line but
again what your point is right he does not expect us to fix us only he can fix
us I can’t right I cannot White Knuckle it and so that would lead us to a time when the
powers of the age to come he’s going to bring a Deliverance for a Remnant who is
an angst and we’re going to shine like the stars the Bible says he comes and
delivers us he comes with healing in our wings so you don’t have to be a finished work you just have to be somebody
yielded and saying change me I want to see the world delivered right yeah and
you go on into the scripture he says beginning in my house because it starts with us why because he’s going to pour
out the powers of the age to come and the church will not be a mixture anymore we’re going to do the greater things
than Christ did we’re going to be the latter and former rain church that do greater things than the beginning and
there’s a lot of people that have problems with that but if you um I remember another one that stuck out to
me was that Christ was the Pioneer and the Perfecter and so why would they say Pioneer if no
one else was going to be able to do the work that he was doing
well some I often wonder when he said you’re going to do Greater Works than me they didn’t have artificial intelligence
back then they didn’t have people interfacing with quantum computers they didn’t have so even that is us doing
some things that’s not in the scripture yeah that’s true good point but I just wanted to show
that that has been happening all along it’s modeled inside of people programming those same things
um it’s not new that’s that’s how Deliverance is going to happen yeah no and I love that and I love that you back
that with scripture because that is an important piece for a lot of people um
you know I I always get kind of stuck in the middle of stuff because there’s so
many theologies and there are people who are so wise
and so well studied that believe opposite things it’s like doctors
believing different diets and it’s it’s where you have to go back to the
fruit and the word because the Bible says the anointing is real not counterfeit no man
needs to teach you so one we have to say is that person in process they’re a baby
and they don’t know everything that you’ve walked with and learned and let people be in process that’s Holy Ghost
you don’t you don’t have to shove the word down somebody’s throat amen you’re going to have as much of God as you want
okay so but then there’s plenty of other people who think that they can understand the word apart from the
spirit and they can’t right right if you have relationship and you spend time you
worship and you invite his presence to come and you fellowship with him he will
teach you himself right completely agree that’s why I mean
it truly is the living Oracle it is God it is Christ it is the word it is the
light it is the life all of those things are true um and it becomes like
um this beautiful like you’re so drawn to it at a certain point
but it is frustrating even for me and I’ve been studying for years
and I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be for someone whose mind is split and I can’t imagine how frustrating it
must be for someone new but I would say exactly what you just said is beautiful that just stick with the spirit and be
led by the word because even the word can be used against people
and the devil does he it becomes the religious spirit yes and he beats you up
but the truth is most people don’t know the word right they’ll never go against
his word there are some things that are above the word like kangaroos are not in the Bible but we know they exist right
but it’s not going to change the scripture or the principles right right
so and it’s interesting too because um Amanda and I just did the last one on religious spirits and then people like
well there’s no such thing as religious spirits in the Bible and I’m just like you know they’re like where can you lead me to that and all I can say is that to
me that person is exactly what we were talking about like you’re focusing on
something that has nothing to do with the heart of God and um you know when you think about it was
funny because like I think it was yesterday I was reading um Matthew and I was in Beatitudes is
that did I say that correct you did and if you read Beatitudes again again with
the idea of religious Spirits in your head you see it in a totally different
way than you’ve ever seen it before um and so it is interesting to see how
God can begin to to light up certain information for you
even in your even in your confusion you know if your lungs are trying to do the best you can you can start seeing
because if you bring it to him he’ll be like here here’s something that you’ve read a thousand times and now look at it
again from this angle for your whole walk with the Lord but you know I want you to I want your listeners to know
every time the truth comes the counter to the truth comes there were two trees
in the garden God will always give us a choice do you want the real or do you want to be deceived
always or or we would never have a choice so for every authentic spirit of
God there is a counter to it the Bible doesn’t name every kind of spirit there
is but it does tell you their Spirits it does sit and tell you their malevolent
spirits and so you might say oh there’s no religious spirit well is there some kind of thing that makes you try to be
legalistic just like the sand eater and the Pharisees exactly and it’s going to be influenced by spirit because the
Bible says we’re not wrestling with man but Powers principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places so yeah does
the bible name every Spirit it would be so redundant and so full right but is it Christ or is it Antichrist there’s only
two and it’s a it’s a spirit behind it and one is kind and one is unkind and I
think sometimes it can be that simple is somebody throwing this at you because
they’re trying to one-up you or that they’re trying to press you into their cult or are they telling you this with
with you know love in their hearts you can tell and I think that helps a lot and that’s
one of the reasons why I love both you and Amanda because you both are just beautiful Spirits
um and so thank you for this do you have time to answer a couple of questions I’ve got
um four of them I’d love to yeah Okay cool so the first one is how does one get Memories Back so
as to bring healing so the dissociative walls that are up
you won’t know it at the beginning but that’s your will your will is saying
when that wall is there the Mind wants to heal itself if you give it what it needs it’ll heal just like a broken bone
so in order when somebody’s not able to get at the memories that’s going to be either they’re not get they don’t have
the support there’s going to be some kind of belief that you have to identify are they
afraid that they will um go crazy so then you’d have to sit and work on that helping them to see and
learn how to titrate themselves it think of that wall like bricks that are fears and thoughts that are the dissociative
walls and so you’re finding out what that person needs to go there right and
so that’ll make the Wall come down so you you it’s your will you’ll see when
you get through the wall that you had the power all the time but people are so in this day and age they don’t
acknowledge their needs I don’t need anybody I don’t need this and that’s a lie they’re lying to themselves
so if you can’t get to the memories you need to work on the resistance to the memories why can’t you what are you
afraid of what need is not being met to get you there does that make sense yeah it does and it reminds me of one of the
best things I ever heard is um Satan is a mouse with a megaphone and really and
truly I I really do believe this and it was one of the questions that was in the chat uh this woman was saying I’m so
afraid to go through this I’m so afraid and so this is a question that wasn’t on
there but it makes me want to ask you I’m sure there are worse case scenarios
of reactions but from from your experience hasn’t
always been less than what the person feared okay yeah right same with
probably therapists I’m sure therapists get spooked every once in a while and it’s probably never as bad as they they
fear it’ll be it’s I’m not saying it’s easy it hurts like hell but you
the worst part I used to have multiple personalities I wasn’t programmed but I do know what it’s like to get up on
those memories and the worst part is right when you’re just about to drop in once you drop in it’s kind of like
you’re watching you’re a part of your soul stepping back looking at what’s happening and so the worst part is
bumping into it right um I’ve had the full-blown AB Reactions where you fall
out on the floor in front of people in a public place and you’re talking in a little girl voice and it didn’t kill you
so it’s like you lived through the hardest part right right helping them
see that they can do it and there’s some people that are living in that only worse what what they’re what they’re
going through and they’re having it on a regular basis rather than just let’s go let’s plow through this with God and get
it done and that’s often one of the hindrances is that there’s still being accessed and they’re not safe too so go
ahead which is another issue as well so resistance
um when my mind is foggy forgetful Etc how do you know if this is spiritual or
not not quite sure what they mean there so you you have to sit and figure it out
is it long covered like nothing where you’re you’re uh having leaky brain
right or is it your dissociating so you would sit and look for dissociative
Clues you know do you have a history of trauma um do you have like PTSD symptoms you
know like hyper vigilance nightmares all of that so I would need to sit and find out from the person are you a survivor
of trauma and and is this dissociation and then you’d look for triggers right well what happened recently was it your
birthday or did whatever so it’s like teasing it out that’ll help you see is it dissociation but we’re also having a
lot of medical stuff affecting people right now so it’s not that easy from that question I’d have to get more
information to help her figure that out okay cool um and then
um I was told I had a Handler and to separate or cut ties with them and I
have done so but God has not shown any Revelation about this
this is problematic is that it’s one thing to sit and tell
in general people how programming works but a lot of times you get these prophetic people and I’m not saying
they’re not prophetic and they’ll be like ministering and they’ll say well I see this happening to you right here and
this and the person starts to trust the the prophetic Minister because they’re
an authority and they have no witness so so let’s just say and I’ve had this
with a real client I had a real client who won one of her abusers went through
healing and and went deep into healing and was trying to tell her I I’m your
birth mother and I’ve been through rituals well this young lady that I’m
working with is like I don’t have any memories of that the dissociative walls are up you could
be hearing God but if it doesn’t even heal that person until they it’s only when they see their
own past and they only process and so but I see a lot of people that are just
guessing too you know you got all the people who mean well and they’ll be like this is your Handler and here’s the
thing say that she has let’s say the handler was the mother
and she’s cut it off her back parts are still attached to mother and she’s sneaking out and going it always happens
so it’s like don’t even do it let’s stop playing God let God be their healer if they need to
go back let him go back let them let them they’re responsible for their healing love them where they’re at stop
trying to like warn them if they don’t do it on your time frame
you know that it’s you can see where it’s frustrating though and um even uh
there’s there are a lot of people out there that are fake victims and they’re
they’re damaging real victims um one they’re they’re stealing their Valor
but two they’re also destroying their legitimacy um and they’re pitted against each other
do you have any comment on that oh that’s a big one I would say this I
would not say they’re fake victims I would say they’re controlled opposition who’s programmed okay I see so many
people and it breaks my heart some of these people I’ve met in person you know and it’s like they’re putting up making
lots of money and peeling to the hearts of people that care
and they’re selling these stories you know and what they are is their
controlled opposition some of them may think in their front Parts they’re free but most of them I
can tell it’s a Croc you know and they’re there to be safety nets to catch people I get the people
who come to me and go oh is that so-and-so’s Ministry and I followed them and they’re really reprogramming us oh my God
and so that is everywhere that is so everywhere so one thing is if you have
somebody who always has this information that they’re up there on their show telling you like oh and you know We
rescued these children and I’m in this court and I’m doing that nobody that you’d be killed
if you were not controlled opposition right if you weren’t of benefit to them
they have a hundred roads to Sunday into you through your programming the people that are really trying to get
free are scared they know the risk and they don’t want to be all up front
it’s so it’s like just know that that is so common and they are many people lying you know
it’s so frustrating to see someone you know that is a real victim being re-victimized
and and like you said sometimes it’s just for the gift it’s just for money it’s like all different things it’s just
oh all right so the next question was or the last question was I was told I have
been mind controlled in SRA but I have no recollection of it how do I know for
sure again same thing happening
it’s like why are you know somebody could say you know I’m wondering if and
give them why why do you think is it just you thought it in your mind because like if you if you’re not able to tell
somebody that you think they were SRA and tell them why you probably have no right telling them you know you can have
the knowledge in the spirit realm but if you don’t have the wisdom to know how to apply that knowledge it’s better to
right so if this person has no knowledge of it
put it on the Shelf don’t worry about it right pray about it say God if this is
true help me to see if they don’t see and they really are SRA they’re not ready
when somebody doesn’t see it the wall is up for a reason I have had pastors
try to do theophosic or something and push through that dissociative wall the person has a psychotic break and they’re
in the hospital that wall they put up that wall says the subconscious is saying conscious mind you can’t deal
with this right now and so we need to respect it you invite them to take it down you do the work to
help them be ready to take it down sure don’t start telling people their reality
it just makes them confused yes yes this is so good Gina thank you so much do you
have any last words things that have come to your mind since we started no you did really good
um I do want to let people know because um I have a conference coming up okay cool yeah that was my next question what
do you have going on and where can people find you yeah um um Kelly Hawley at Warrior bride
Ministries out of the Atlanta area in Georgia is hosting a conference I’ve
done a conference with her before and you can find her and information about the conference at
warriorbrideministries.com or you can go to my website and get information it’s Gina hyphenphilips.com
um and so you know I’ll be one of the speakers and and I don’t know exactly what all we’re
doing yet but it’s the October the 20th through the 22nd I also want to find me
there that would be so fun um thank you so much I hope to have you back I actually have this dream of
having you and um Amanda buys on together so I’m gonna see if I can make that work yeah and maybe Dr Laura Sanger
too oh I know Doctor Laura I love I love her I got to meet her finally she came
to Dallas and I got to meet her it was so awesome I had no idea you knew her that’s really cool she’s a precious lady
her family’s pretty awesome too yes yes it would be it would be really fun so thanks everyone for coming and um you
know how to get a hold of her I have it in the description box it’s also in the chat I put it in there twice
um I hope everybody has a great day tomorrow I will be back for part three with Cheryl back on the MK ultra
um the green bomb speech it’s it’s really amazing to hear her she’s always
dreamed of going through it line by line and I’m like why not let’s do it so I’m gonna check it out yeah everybody have a
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second usually oh and we’re live we are rolling with idolatry in the temple and
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Gina Phillips is in the house I have literally I I went back in my emails to
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see when was it that I first reached out to you and it was in May of 2021 and you
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were super busy at the time I had a ton of stuff going on so gracious and
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wonderful rejection that you gave me but you did say that you would reach out
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um eventually and here you are and it’s so wonderful because um one of the people that my subscribers
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love the most is Amanda buys and I would not have known about her if it weren’t for you so I have to give you credit for
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that and I remember when you said well I can’t do anything but you seem really
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interested you should look into you know Amanda buys and Canaan Ministries and I
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did and I was obsessed and I watched all of her videos in a very short period of time and then reached out to her and and
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she blessed me with also she she wasn’t available for months and months but I finally got her and and we do regular
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work together and it’s so fun and it’s all because of you thank you oh my pleasure and um yeah please know that
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taking so long to get on has nothing to do with me being all that special at all but anybody that works on this front
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line is managing crises and busy it’s Anything could happen at any time so I’m
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glad it worked out for us well just for the few people that might not know who you are if you could share
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um a little bit about your background and why I would have even reached out to you
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well I am a retired as of like two years ago licensed professional counselor
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um I practiced in the state of North Carolina in the Raleigh area um my specialty was dissociative
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identity disorder and um Satanic ritual abuse and about 15 years ago I was
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actually somebody that um I consulted on a lot of cases in my county that I lived
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in um so I was like a specialist for SRA and dissociation so I
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would people would seek me out for consultations and this one little ladybug that I was Consulting
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um was somebody that you guys if you watch my videos know of is Galaxy and
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she is was a bloodliner of the 13 Illuminati Bloodlines you know full
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blood liner programmer working in the government and I was Consulting that case with her therapist and long story
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short I began I learned from her that Satanic ritual abuses you’re going to be
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hard-pressed to find somebody that’s not also what we call a ritual abuse
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government-sponsored mind control so beneath the Satanic ritual abuse memories you will find
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government-sponsored programming and so um uh in the deprogramming of Galaxy she
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taught me what I you know all that she knew about that and then the Holy Spirit taught me a whole lot more and we’ve
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just been on this journey so um I retired two years ago I I treat exclusively the Mind Control survivors
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some call it MK Ultra same thing you can use it those survivors and um I have a
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Ministry called Darkness Delight Ministries so we help people free of charge we have donations we do
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everything from paying rent to you know I’ve had some people from other nations come and live and you become their
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family um so I you treat them for free right it’s awesome awesome thank you so much
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for your work and it’s it’s really fun to um to see how people really have
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opened their minds to this you know I think a lot of times and this is why
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when you were like well what do you want to chat about I my first reaction was I would love for the church to know and
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when I say the church I I use it openly because I’ll be honest with you
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um there’s 4 500 sects of Christianity there’s you know this person and this
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person didn’t agree and then they went to the church down the street or they started a new one because they split on
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this and they split on that and you know as a new and I’m not a new believer but
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I can’t imagine if I’m lost in all of it trying to navigate what’s truth and
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what’s not sincerely from my heart seeking the truth um I can’t imagine how overwhelming it
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must be for someone who’s new and then to add this horrific and wicked layer of
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having the church infiltrated um and I just thought there’s no one bad
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to share what the churches should know and and at least you know I know there’s
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some Churches out there that are infiltrated completely but there’s some that aren’t and it would be really
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beneficial for the body of Christ to know what you the information that you have to share
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I would love for your comment on that because it is overwhelming for anybody I
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think that is a new believer to like how do I even do this correctly yeah and and the churches have only and
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they’re far they’re hard to find but um you know 15 years ago when I’m doing
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this I was ostracized and you know made to be unstable and you know a Croc yet I
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had this huge group of people behind me saying help me right we can’t go to the
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church we can’t get help they don’t believe us they can’t help us and so it’s only been since you know the whole
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Trump time when he came in office and things I believe biblically we entered into that time where it says at the time
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of the end that everything that was hidden will be shouted from the rooftops and so things started changing I believe
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that prophecy was and continues to be fulfilled you know the stuff that I’m
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going to share with you today it’s been here all along it goes back to the Garden you know you write you
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dissociation and using it to program is in the Egyptian Book of the Dead like it goes back that far it’s been perfected
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but it’s always been around and so now that the church can see with their eyes
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that people in high places are not what they seem they’re beginning to open up
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and people are reaching out but the church and I was trained back in
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you know the 90s the early 90s I got born again in 1989 I was in college
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about age 25 and you know I learned the normal
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Deliverance stuff like Derek Prince and some of these people where it’s you know come out in the name of Jesus but the
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devil over Millennia has learned how to entrench himself into people in a way
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that it’s not that easy like the demons are the easy part it’s what people want to hear and these victims of Mind
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Control are the most demonized people on the planet but the demons are hidden behind
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dissociative walls and so anytime I say the word dissociation or dissociative just think amnesia
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and so trauma is used to split this children’s minds and guys this is not
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just like Galaxy that’s being programmed where you’re a bloodliner with many generations of satanic practices
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luciferian they’re doing they’re cranking out thousands and thousands of
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children in daycares and foster care and preschools and you know my daughter was
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a victim of that in preschool okay so like I’ve lived this myself
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um but the way that they’re demonized they use trauma and they’ll shatter the mind
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because that’s what happens and you develop what used to be called multiple personality disorder
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but if so let’s for the sake of illustration let’s say here’s how they um why you can’t just say come out in
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the name of Jesus right the demons would go but they’d come back so if you have somebody that’s mind is
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split the cult knows if I hide a program which
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is a script like a somebody that would be like a Manchurian Candidate and I put a horrific memory to split the mind in
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front of it that person would have to go through that horrible memory again
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to get that part of their mind back that split off and most people don’t want to do that and most churches won’t walk
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people through that the average person doesn’t want to listen to those kind of traumas and so you end up with a person
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with a shattered will so usually there’s thousands of Parts but let’s just say there’s a hundred
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so you have these people that are really Christians because you only have to ask Christ into one part of your heart right
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and and we’re all in process of more of our heart going to Christ so you have a
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Survivor who has multiple personalities and their front part loves Jesus goes to church worships him but that’s only
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let’s say that’s one tenth of the person they’ve got like you know hundreds of other parts that are maybe loyal doing
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other things and they don’t know about it so you have a divided will and so the the church is going to have
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to learn about dissociation they’re going to have to learn about how um our
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soul can be shattered it’s even in Scripture it says a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways when you look
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up the double-minded it means double sold if you look it up in them and so
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imagine that with hundreds of parts that’s in scripture the double-minded double-sold man is unstable in all his
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ways so the church has to learn this if if we don’t no one will right Jesus says what
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are we supposed to do we’re supposed to heal the sick raise the dead and drive out demons nobody else is going to do it if we
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don’t we are the healers we are God’s representation his hand so if the church
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doesn’t do it nobody is not fully and I was a clinician and I saw that they are
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really good with understanding the mind and all the academics but they don’t deal with the spiritual side of it and
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then you go in the church and if you have somebody that halfway understands the Demonic and did they have no idea
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how to do the psychological the human attachment part of it like the clinicians so that’s sort of a drawn out
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answer but does that make sense yeah and so that that brings me to like my own mind split
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um so I have on one side this this total respect for people who don’t believe in
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Deliverance and I understand why and I I get it but it Deliverance is different
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than counseling um but I I would love for you to answer to that but then I would also love as
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I’m listening to you I’m thinking okay let’s say I’m you know Susie Homemaker
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um and love the Lord and I want my church to understand this I would love for you to address directly if a pastor
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happened to get this video and he had never really considered any
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of this what would you like to say to them so I know I just asked you two questions you can answer in any order
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that you would like well I mean I would first say to them go to my website and watch my video
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called Mind Control overview my website is I have to look I got so
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many things it’s Gina hyphen Phillips with two ls.com and so the main video I
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have there it’s called Mind Control overview and so that gives you an idea of how the
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mind control Army works to be honest with churches here’s the
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way I see it I’ve been trying for years to train people to deprogram and I run
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into problems that’s why there’s not many of us one is because the level of
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warfare like you’re taking the devil’s Army the most demonize people on the planet you are
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going to be berated okay the Warfare they will be parts that love you and parts do in Witchcraft and
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sex rituals in your yard okay you know to to cast spells on you so people you
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got to be walking with God you have to be totally surrendered nobody’s perfect I’m not trying to act like I’m not but
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nobody lasts long so I get all these people coming in and they bail out because their lives they get cancer they
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get crazy stuff crazy stuff so so and then the other thing is it’s
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really complex and and I’ve had to study I’ve still study and most people aren’t
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willing to put the time in it to be honest most people come into it the novelty of it and they don’t realize how
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hard it is so I don’t know I’m sort of in this place now after trying to train people
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and I have a small handful of people that I’m working with most people won’t put the study the time
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into it right I’m thinking what’s really going to happen for the future D programmers is going to be these people
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that Amanda and Dan and me and others have walked all the way
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they’re the best missionaries they have bills when you said that I literally got chills I look at um I look at Cheryl
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back and we’re doing a series on the green bomb speech she’s just reading it aloud and sharing her personal testimony
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it’s amazing and I would also um suggest people watch that if they want to know more about mind control
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but the church’s role I’m seeing now is they need to come back to being a community and a family again because
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these people must have support the research shows that people won’t deal with these really tough memories without
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proper support and it’s unethical for me to open up somebody’s dissociated trauma
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if they don’t have somebody to walk them through it right a lot of Ministries go in I start first with stability Let’s
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Build You Up support so I have groups I have groups that teach about attachment and how attachment whether you gotta
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have it whether it’s somebody in your church family or counselor that person must have established trust where they
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can be totally open and they have that support and so churches need to learn the basics about
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mind control but I see them more as being the support they are meant to be a community that lives life together we
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are to Bear one another’s burden and so then it takes only a few people to deprogram but the day-to-day life these
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people once you start breaking down the barriers of these trauma memories they can’t work right they have periods where
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they can’t function sure they need family so it’s going to take us all
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coming together we are far from it right now but I believe well scripture says we’ll get there
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well it can happen in a twinkling of an eye too right you know good things and bad things can happen quickly
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do you know of anyone who is ever just between them and God healed themselves
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it’s possible and that’s so cool that’s what but they need a paradigm for it see
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here’s the thing like if I don’t think that God heals I’m not going to position myself for healing if I don’t believe he
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saves and so the reality is people’s minds are split they’ve astral projected
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into other Realms and are held in captivity right they don’t understand their whole selves right their right
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hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing so what I’m finding is the people that I was deprogramming like Galaxy my
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daughter and others early on this the programming that is pulled up
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now was deeply buried and so they had to go through brutal years of memories to get
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healed but right now we’re in a time where the powers that be the upper the
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handlers they are about to uh Reef uh what’s the word I’m looking for
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fry the old way of programming the old world programming and they’re pulling
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that up those early splits and parts it was like princess programming were parts
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that were the early splits with the most power were sitting in castles that kind of stuff it was deeply hidden before now
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it’s front and center and so everybody’s right there at the beginning and I learned over the years if you take out
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the beginning programming all the other stuff Falls away okay and so it’s not
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taking 12 years right I’m seeing people go so fast but they need a paradigm they
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have to see how programming the base programming set up be we have support to
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go through the memories and yes I’m seeing those that are highly motivated to walk with Christ do it on their own
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because that’s who God is but they just thought they were making it up it was a dream right yeah that makes me want to
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cry because to me I I do feel so strongly for these people because I I
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think deep down inside we all know and I think that when they realize what a mess it is out there how do they know who to
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trust there’s people that they can go to that will re reprogram them and and so
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it’s it’s very very complex they have hearts still and they want
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they want to put them someplace safe right they don’t want somebody hijacking their heart again and so
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um any suggestions for vetting someone good you know what there is no shortcut to
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trust and this is something Christians we think that because somebody says the word I’m a Christian that we just let
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all our walls down and jump in and that’s hogwash um and so trust has to be earned you know
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you you test somebody a little bit don’t throw all your stuff out there see how they handle a little right and if
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they’re trustworthy you build on it and so I teach survivors that I teach the church that
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um Jesus had the 70 the 12 the three and then John beloved was the closest he got
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to lay his head on Jesus chest that’s levels of people that are get to get
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closer to Christ that’s a boundary that’s earning Trust um which is what we should do for all
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relationships it seems like people most understand it with business in business they’re just you know
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checking the bottom line looking at your bank statements but oh you know this is my life okay I’m gonna just tell you
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everything um and and that’s where the danger comes um and then I also know that some of the
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splits can tell on themselves or tell them they do reporters yes yes and so
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um as far as the church goes and maybe you feel like you already answered this with saying please look at my website
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for the Mind Control overview um is there anything else that you would say to a pastor that was listening or
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somebody who is in charge of some sort of ministry to create Community around
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these people um to inspire them
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to inspire them to what to help oh yeah yeah I mean if first they have to
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to know what it is so I think I did a pretty decent job in that video of the overview and so I think that people’s
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eyes are opening I could walk into your church in any church and I guarantee that I could pick out survivors I just
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start speaking about it and I have lines at conferences they come to my hotel room like you know they’re everywhere
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but they’ve never said and so you got to say do I believe this so look up what I
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what I did and what people like Amanda and others are doing and say do I believe this and then you’re going to
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need to learn about did like find there’s many Ministries teaching about did right now
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you don’t have to deprogram you just need to learn to support them right and so a good way is I’m like again I’m
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training some Churches how to do support groups that are just for survivors here’s the thing Survivor sabotage each
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other so the they need to be able to share with other survivors what they’ve been through because nobody understands
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it like another Survivor groups help break shame it helps them to find their voice again they can come to people in
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crisis but all survivors sabotage one another they do witchcraft against each
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other so you must have somebody responsible hosting a group like I have a forum where I have Administration that
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they can talk but nobody when you start seeing somebody trigger you know if you’re sitting seeing people in in group
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you know when you do it and they’re doing the side posturing different coding to each other you can shut it
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down and go no we’re not going to do that you don’t have to do that here right right so they need monitors while
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they’re together that lets them all have a positive experience with one another they can’t I don’t advise anybody to
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leave them alone so you’re going to need people in your church that are willing to do stuff like that
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they need to be able to um share the truth too many churches do
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this because they don’t know any better the memories when you start to get behind the dissociative walls you’re
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going to have Parts come up telling some of the most graphic stuff and these parts like it here’s the thing
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you’re going to have parts that worship Satan because Satan came forward when they were hurting and they made it look
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like Jesus was you know just impotent and didn’t care so when you start having Parts come up
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that they’re like I love Satan I worship Satan I hate Jesus I don’t want anything to do with him or they’re speaking of
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bestiality and how it meets a need most Christians want to say all right I heard it but let’s shut it down forgive them
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forgive them and you can’t do that you’ve got to give that person time to
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own that part of themselves that they walled off right and you can’t do that in when they just get a little tidbit of
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it you’re talking about making the brain that was split making new Pathways to
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connect that traumatic information sure so it’s going to take a lot of change in
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the church can you bear can you listen to that see a person who has never healed their
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own wounds are not comfortable with others emotions most of the church hadn’t dealt with
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their own stuff I agree I think this would change marriages too um uh Cheryl Beck calls it bringing back
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all the littles and I I I like that because it was all done very young and
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um each one of those those personalities are probably just little kids coping and
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surviving and creating guardianships but I don’t know because I’m not I’m not
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where you are with it what what’s your comment on that so you have the the hmm so there’s the
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littles yes but there’s more you have adult perpetrators it is always every
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multiple is set up with two opposites you’ll have the daytime innocent good
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side and the dark perpetrator side always and so actually the gold is
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getting the dark side that most people want to shut down because so let’s say that you have a kid that is just being
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shamed and shamed and shamed and they do that to split your mind well it’s going
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to split off and the child will eventually after being shamed gets totally ticked off and they fight back
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and they’re mad as hell and they want to kill right they do that so then you got this divided mind and that person will
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split back and forth when they have shame when it gets full the part that fights back hates and has
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Rage that’s the parts that go to the rituals it’s coping mechanism they split
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the Mind always so you’re going to have the Christian part in the Satan worshiping you’re going to have the shame and the Very prideful without a
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conscience part and we’ve got to be able to deal with both so you have to foresee and imagine a
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person’s soul that’s where the programming is we are made up of Body Soul and Spirit and so the soul is your
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mind your will and emotions imagine it like a mirror and you sh it’s shattered with trauma so when that person’s trying
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to put their mirror their soul back together they have to really examine a piece they pick it up what shape is it
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this is looking at their trauma why is this part wanting to worship Satan well you’re going to find out that they felt
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like they had no control so what I’ve learned is with all of these dark Parts
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they were just little children who were trying to meet a legitimate God need but
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they met it in a sinful way right so we have to teach them over time well what
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was the need you know I was you’re dealing with somebody what need did that part that’s so dark how what was it
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looking for now how can we learn to meet that in a legitimate way
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and it’s going to have to be building back relationship with both man and God
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right it wasn’t good for Adam to be alone God couldn’t be all for man he
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said because if he was he wouldn’t have made Eve he said it wasn’t good for man so I don’t like the churches that say all
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you need is God just go to God no God said we needed man too so you got to work on the relationship with God and
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man it’s not it’s not just this big instant thing right God can come in and
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heal if the will see here’s the thing you say can he do it instantly he can if that person’s will says yes but they’re
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so traumatized their Will’s afraid doesn’t know to do it even you know
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um there’s somebody here that had put on here that they um were open with a pastor and it brought on a lot of
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additional trauma and that they were thrown out of four churches and I would probably suspect that that would be a
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normal reaction um only because I think that if they
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don’t know what it is they think this person is probably disruptive or and
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it’s I think that’s another thing I would love for you to share with pastors or people in charge
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of ministry on on what that could look like instead of
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throwing someone out now of course like we like we discussed sometimes the churches are just infiltrated and
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they’re trying to read damage but for the churches that aren’t um what would you try to warn them of
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that could keep them from feeling like this is crazy and I know you overcame it
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because people used to think you were I was kicked out of churches too friend
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but but I want to share both sides because here’s the wounded person is going to sometimes be hurt because
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they’re being triggered and they see things um that are rejection that are not and
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then you have pastors who don’t understand and they are um
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they don’t know how to handle it so remind me every question I totally
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forgot what would I say rather than throwing somebody out what what kind of and I do like that you said that it is a
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two-way street and so maybe there’s some things that you could tell survivors on how not to get kicked out of a good church
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because you know I because they’re hurt here’s the thing if you’re in a church
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whether you’re a pastor or somebody and you work with survivors you must be willing to understand things like the
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the language when this Survivor is going to say I love you I hate you come near
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me leave me the hell alone right they’re gonna you’re gonna be confused they are chaotic in their mind they will bring it
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to you once they start letting you in you’re gonna see how crazy and non-functional their world is they’re
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not crazy but the the chaos is and so a lot of pastors go something’s wrong with
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that person that’s what trauma does okay and so they need to to try to find
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somebody to learn what trauma is is okay and know that when this person trusts
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you when they start to reach out to you they are going to do everything to push you away
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so it takes I call it spreading your Sunshine around you need a team of people
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that’s I’ve made that up 14 15 years ago it’s like because no one person can do
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it all and and or very few people are willing to walk through that way so it so
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pastors you’ve got to learn about trauma and you’ve got to deal with your own trauma and so you have to learn this is
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God’s intention he says that iron sharpens iron when you’re in relationship with them
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you got to know that they’re going to be triggered when you do something so minor
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and it’s going to be a big deal to them because piggy backing on it is every attachment figure they ever had I had
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somebody last week call me in the middle of the night thinking they could just wake me up and talk to me about Jesus
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and when I tried to schedule them an appointment like they’re burning up my phone right and they got so triggered
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that they were rejected and they’re crying and then it turned to you disgust me as a Christian how could you you know
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all I want to talk is about Jesus they don’t know what I did all day right but I got up the next morning I told him I
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was like here they kept calling hanging up I just turned the phone off the next morning I contact the person I go here’s
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when I can talk I said you know I would enjoy talking to you after they said I was disgusting as a Christian to them
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and and um offer to talk with them but I said now here’s what you can’t do you can’t act like you’re in crisis in and
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shame me and humiliate me right they didn’t call me back but you’ve got to be able to do those kinds of things yep how
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many Christians are willing to do that not many well most won’t even do it in their own families with minor trauma
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yep so what’s the problem the church doesn’t look like Christ right and it’s
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a tolerance level um but it’s also an ability to detach in a very healthy way like one of the
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things I love about watching your interviews is you still laugh and and
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and literally spread Sunshine even though you’re talking about such serious
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content um and I’ve always found that that just was who you are at your core you’re just
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this beautiful soft sweet but strong Christian you know and and
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when you don’t have faith in someone I think it’s scary
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so one of the things I learned from working with my guys out of jail was I had to have faith in their ability to
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connect to God and heal themselves as well as supporting and consistently being there and you know here I am you
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know years and years later over a decade later and they’re now coming to me going thank you for being patient with me I’m
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sorry I threw that thing in your house or you know I’m sorry I threw my phone in the pool or you know whatever
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whatever the crazy thing was um but you I think people take it
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personally so if you don’t deal with their wounds right so like it didn’t bother me that she said I was a
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disguster as a Christian because she doesn’t know that I give almost every waking hour right and it didn’t stick
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right and so you know people in the early years you sit and you give them
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your money your time you know you do it with a fever and you’re sick and and and they’ll say things like it’s not enough
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because what are they’re doing they they think that you can take away the pain you can’t they keep trying everything
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like practically to crawl inside of you but you can only hold their hand and walk them through the pain right and so
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if I have a belief inside when somebody if I’m doing it for the wrong reason because like I’ve learned I’m loving
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Jesus I’m walking through the suffering of Jesus I’m comforting my Jesus when
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I’m there with them I’m not doing it for their approval I’m not doing it for anything but my Jesus if you can to the
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degree you can do that when they throw and cast all there’s this versions you they don’t stick right but if I think
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that I I’m if I think I can heal them if I put that responsibility on me and they
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say you’re not doing enough you’re whatever then I’m gonna run away because that hurt my heart I got a wound right right
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exactly and so if you can’t be triggered um it just you’ve already healed in all
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the areas that they’re gonna attack you and you can be like lifetime like I
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would be with Galaxy and this is what I’m teaching a lot of my ministers they know how to do Deliverance but they
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don’t understand this part when when you’re trained in graduate school there’s something called a transference counter transference so you learn to
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compartmentalize you sit there and you’re there for the client right then but if they hurt you and and it makes
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you want to run go back to your support group and figure out why did it why did it trigger you so you be healing that’s
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the iron sharpening iron they will find every wound you have but you must go
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back to let your your support you’re going to God God this hurts me this was happens because my mother used to
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criticize me all the time right do you see what I mean it must be two people working together you don’t have to be a
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completed work but you must be willing to to deal with your wounds are you everybody bails 90 of them
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yeah I do I believe that this would also close the gap between all of the
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different sects of Christianity I think it’s the people’s wounds and and their
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their their their stubbornness and and arrogance that would separate good
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people right there’s obviously someone not good that’s forcing something right
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whether it’s forcing false Doctrine or whatever it is and so so let’s go to I’m
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just gonna I’m gonna let you just kind of take over and share what you wanted to share but afterwards if you have time
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um a couple of people sent questions and I would love to to share those with everyone as well if you have time
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yeah I do have time you it’s just for you so you let me know if I’m going over no I could I could do this for hours
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I wanted to share um because you know this stuff sounds so far-fetched but I want to take a
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scripture in Ezekiel Aid and it’s where um Ezekiel is taken by the Lord into the
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temple it’s the Temple of Solomon to show that people are having a face and a
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facade of of following the Lord but behind the scenes they’re worshiping
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other gods and so it was happening then it’s still happening now there’s a
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mixture in the church today just like there was a mixture back then and so
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um in this scripture God had warned Israel through the prophets like Jeremiah Ezekiel Isaiah saying repent I
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want he wants Mercy right acknowledge your wounds acknowledge your issues or
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I’m going to judge you right and then you had these false prophets going he’s not going to judge just like today he’s not going to judge
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us but the Bible says God slowed anger it doesn’t say he doesn’t get angry
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and it is merciful for God to judge think of all the innocent people being
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heard in church right now because people you might say but they didn’t know they are programmed they have Christian front
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parts and perpetrator back parts he’s been long suffering and the little children cry out and he’s waited and so
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Justice says we got to stop hurting our kids we got to quit propagating so it’s love I want love is not what the world
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thinks it is but um I wanted to share this and so this here’s what I don’t want to happen
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everybody who’s programmed has this programming in there unless for some reason like I have one lady I’m working
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with she went a very short time to a preschool they started programming her she screamed cried begged her parents
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and never had to go back but she had good parents she did listen to those babies if they’re throwing a fit going
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anywhere there might be more to it so everybody’s going to have this programming and so the church is going
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to have to be willing to not shame the person that they have this in their back
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programming the Witchcraft okay so let’s look at it if you have so do you want me
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to pull up Ezekiel or the temple let’s do the temple first okay and I’m gonna
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explain something quickly all right let’s pull up the temple look at me I am
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amazing in motion I did it [Laughter] good for you I’m impressed so I I’m not
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going to get real deep into the temple but I want to show you that the temple
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that was in Jerusalem was a concrete physical temple on Earth that mirrors
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what’s in the spirit you know what’s in heaven it’s a shadow of what exists in
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heaven and so as we became the temple ourselves
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after Christ right we are a new creation in Christ we’re born again with the
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Sperma of God the DNA of God and so now we are the temple so there’s the
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physical Temple here there’s the temple the way God’s temple in heaven is set up and then we are that
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Temple so there’s three parts to the temple if you look at the top it says
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the outer Court so the outer Court was a core a place where the Gentiles could come it’s not
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that Holy anybody could walk and travel in that area that represents our physical body right this body is carnal
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it’s not going to inherit eternal life we get an immortal body this just goes back to the Earth it’s not redeemable
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and so it’s the same thing the outer court is the physical body of man
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and so then you go into What’s called the holy place you see that rectangle with the menorahs that’s the human soul
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it represents the human soul that’s where programming is so the common man can’t go in there you’re supposed to go
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in there and be sprinkled with the blood which represents Christ right so that allows you to get into that Holy place
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and if you notice here you see the the pillar of Boaz and um yakin which you
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guys hear me talk about a lot in the Freemasons Freemasons are not Christians but the occult mocks the authentic they
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take everything that God created and they corrupt it we’re going to see that he the devil cannot create he can only
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copy what’s already there so you have the Holy place which is our soul and
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then if you move further to the left you have the holy of holies and that represents the spirit of man the
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born-again spirit in Christ that’s a new creation new creature in Christ so we’re
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three part being just like God he is father son and spirit and we are Body
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Soul in spirit and so I’m going to be talking about this Temple but we’re going to have to take it down to look at
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this scripture okay let’s pull up the scripture
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and then get the next one share screen
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and here we go cool I’m going to look at my notes just
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because I can’t see that so good but others can probably do it I just wanted people to know this is the Amplified
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classic edition edition of the Bible I really like that so that’s why I went with it and I’m going to start a little
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bit into verse one so it’s this this is Ezekiel speaking the prophet Ezekiel and he said as I
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Ezekiel sat in my house a captive of the Babylonians with the Elders of Judah
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sitting before me the hand of the Lord fell there upon me so remember the Judgment of God was that
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the Babylonians took the Jews captive that was their judgment so they’re now
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slaves and so ezekiel’s in his house captive in Babylon
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and the Hand of the Lord falls upon him he says then I beheld a likeness of a
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man with the appearance of fire this is the Lord and his ways downward was like fire and from his waist upward he had
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the appearance of brightness like gleaming bronze and he put forth the
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form of a hand and he took me by the lock of my head and the spirit lifted me up between the Earth and the heavens and
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brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem to the entrance of the door of
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the inner Court which faces the North and so we don’t have to go back to the
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the temple but just know that there are different entrances and Gates and this is in the inner Court
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and the inner court is going to be your soul right the soul the realm of the soul and what did he find there it says
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that’s where he saw the seat of the idol image of jealousy which provokes to
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jealousy so I want to talk a little bit about what that was so it’s supposed to be you’re going into the second most
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whole you know the beginning holy place the soul and what is he fine there he’s finding Idols that are to provoke him to
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jealousy so I’m not gonna have you go there but
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those who want to study this and we should do that for anything we take Serious these days go see if what I’m
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saying is true right but if you want to know what’s there what are these Idols of jealousy you will go to Second Kings
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21 2. and it’s talking about the king of of Israel Manasseh
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and so I’m just going to read from that I’m going to prove to you if you’ll look there you’ll see what this jealousy Idol is
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so Manasseh was king of Judah and he’d placed in the temple during his Reign
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Idols of Baal and ashtarte the Queen of Heaven so that’s Babylon she has many
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names she’s she’s the queen of Heaven she’s astero she is um is Isis she is Babylon she’s the same
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Babylon you see um Crowley and and the Golden Dawn worship okay
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um and so and bail bail has many names too we’re going to look at him in a minute it’s samayal he is Aries he’s
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many different things so as worshipers entered the temple their attention is arrested by these
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Idols they’re going in to Worship the Lord and here Manassas put these Idols in there so it’s sort of like
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trying to provoke the Lord to jealousy so imagine you’re going on a date with your bridegroom Jesus or the Lord and
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you go in there to be with him but your eyes are looking at another woman right you keep that’s the goal right he’s
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provoked to jealousy with these two other gods and so it says manasse did evil in the
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sight of the Lord after the idolatrous practices of the Heathen Nations whom
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the Lord cast out before the Israelites Manasseh built up again the high places that his father had destroyed and he
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reared up altars to Baal and made an asherah and worshiped all the starry
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hosts of heavens and he served them and he built Heathen altars in the house of the Lord of which the Lord said in
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Jerusalem I’ll put my name and pledge my presence
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um and he built altars for all the hosts of Heaven and the two ports of the house of the Lord and he made his son pass
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through the fire and burned him as an offering to Molech he practiced sooth
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saying and he dealt with mediums and wizards he made a Graven image of the
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Goddess asherah which is the same as Babylon and said it in the house of
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which the Lord said to David and Solomon and his son this this house and in Jerusalem I will choose out of all the
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tribes of Israel and I’ll put my name and I’ll pledge my presence forever and Manassas seduced them to do more
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evil than the Nations did that the Lord had judged wow so that’s what that
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um Idol of jealousy is there it’s in if you’ve watched any of my videos that’s
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Mickey and Minnie Mouse um they use that in the early program to
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be Babylon Queen of Heaven and Baal which is also
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Samuel so when you’re little kids you know if they’re programmed or seeing Mickey or Minnie that’s the idol yeah
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and I I was reading about because I hadn’t really heard of tamus or tammuz however you say it until maybe like a
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month or two ago and then I couldn’t believe it was in here where the women were crying to tammuz and apparently
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that also was uh something some God that was married to Ishtar yeah he’s a
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Shepherd God the counterfeit Jesus and he dies and is resurrected every year so
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around the winter solstice he dies he’s reincarnated in Easter time and so
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they’re weeping for him instead of Christ we’re going to get to that in the scripture so okay so um we are on verse four
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hold on I gotta go there we go okay and behold there was the glory of the
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god of Israel who had loved and chosen them like the vision I saw in the plane
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so so if you put the verse three and four together he’s saying I saw the jealousy Idols there but also the glory
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of the Lord was there so in programming the devil can never stop a child that is
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meant to be born again they can see in the spirit realm your Godly Scrolls you know they consult the mothers of
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darkness and you know if they know that a child is going to be saved that they belong to the Lord they’ll actually lead
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the child to Christ and then have that child reject their human born-again
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spirit and then they they put in captivity the presence of the Lord so I
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want you to know that even in this physical temple they’re sitting there saying here’s those two Idols Baal and
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Babylon but also the glory of the Lord is there too he never leaves us
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survivors end up finding in the end that he never left us we’re way too precious for him but they just didn’t notice it
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because the eye is on these images of jealousy um and it when he says when Ezekiel says
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here that he saw the glory of God um they are just like he saw in the plane that’s referring to Ezekiel 1 28
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if you want to go there um you know just after the video because I’m gonna let you do that real quick
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Ezekiel because what it is he says in Ezekiel 1 28
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the the vision in the plane it’s that same fiery figure that’s like bronze on fire but he says around him is the glory
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of God that looks like a rainbow so the glory of God was there and you
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guys may have heard um of going over the rainbow in Aus programming right almost
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every major religion when they go in the other realm speak of the Rainbow Bridge you have the frost the frost what is it
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in uh nordics the bifrost bridge that really exists in the spirit realm
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remember these I was gonna say that’s actually in like the movie Thor and all of like where he
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is from you have to go across this Rainbow Bridge to get there so Satan can’t create
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the devil uses us and our creativity and our promises in God so you’re crossing
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over the glory of God into the other realm and that is the same going over
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the rainbow in Oz programming so imagine this here’s God who’s promised to be
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loyal to you and and only you and yours promise to be loyal to him and you’ve got your girlfriend and your boyfriend
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and you’re using his goods and what he gave to you to go do something that’s
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illegitimate right you’re being sparked to jealousy what a thumb what a thumb in
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your nose at God right um
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is that where the twig The Twig in your nose or The Twig on your nose came from we’re gonna get to that that’s thumbing
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your nose at God so in verse 5 it says then he the spirit said to me son of man now lift up your
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eyes toward the north so I lifted up my eyes toward the North and behold on the
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North altar gate was the idol the of jealousy in the entrance
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and so there you go the other Idols in that place furthermore the spirit said
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to me son of man do you see what they’re doing the great Abominations that the house of Israel is committing here to
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drive me Far From My Sanctuary but you’ll see even greater Abominations
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and so then he takes him um he says and he brought me to the door of the court and when I looked behold
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there was a hole in the wall so let’s talk about this because this is going to be where you bring up Hillary
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okay okay so should I should I put this one down for a minute and then go ahead
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and bring her up I’ll get to her all right so stop that screen and then
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start a new screen and I need Hillary
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oh Hillary oh I know Hillary was on that one she just was on a different window sorry
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about that guys all right I’m new to this let’s go back to Hillary there she
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is do you see it I see it but can you yeah I want the mainly The Heading yeah it
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looks like they’re showing the hurricane but the heading and people can um go search that out sure so I want to talk
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about the hole in the wall so he goes in um to the court right and and he sees
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the hole in the wall it’s not a door it’s a hole and so
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this wall here is the Border it represents the border between the natural and the spirit realm because
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you’re entering into the temple you’re going into a holy Holier place and so instead of going through the door
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and who is the door Jesus he is right there they have a hole
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in a secret place and so what that is that’s like a subpar entrance so they’re they’re going
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through that wall not the way God intended them to it’s hidden and it said
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it was secret and hidden and that’s what the occult means hidden secret doing things apart from God so we know Jesus
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is the door it says so in John 10 it says um in John 10 it says he who does
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not he who does not enter by the door which is Christ but climbs up some other way
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is a thief and a robber but he who enters by the door is The Shepherd of
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the sheep the Sheep know my voice and they won’t follow another and Jesus said
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I’m the door of the Sheep so the doors in that Temple are made of brass and
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Brass represents judgment so God intended us to go through the
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doors of judgment in order to go into the holy Place Christ became that judgment for us so he’s the door and so
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here’s people going into the other realm apart from Christ the door they’re
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hiding it it’s not it’s in the wall it’s it’s it’s a little hole because God meant us to to go through
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Christ through judgment against our sin to enter into his house and his courts
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and so the whole man goes into the domain of the spirit realm apart from Christ
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and it says in that scripture that he digs a hole and he forges his own own
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way so what that actually is let me read it one more time it says and out you don’t
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have to pull it back up and he brought me to the door of the court and when I looked behold there was a hole in the
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wall and then he said to me son of man now dig in the wall and when I had dug in the wall he found
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a door so I’m going to tell you guys what that is that is a pocket realm I have a video
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if you go to my website on pocket Realms and so if that wall represents the
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barrier between the spirit realm and the natural realm and they’re digging
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through that illegally you’re not going to that realm with Christ you’re creating a pocket room
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and so I’m going to tell you about Hillary and a pocket realm is created when a child
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is hurt whether it’s a sacrifice and a ritual trigger warning for anybody I’m not going to get real graphic or they’re
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just tortured you get enormous emotional energy and when that’s focused at that
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membrane that’s all that self sets separates us it pops out like a bubble
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and so something from that realm comes here and a part of your life force goes there and you create like this bubble
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it’s called a pocket realm and they will begin to develop that as your domain
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you’ll leave those I won’t get into how but they use alchemy to begin to develop that pocket realm so you’re in the other
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realm and you have your own domain where you become your own God and a lot of stuff happens there I’ve got more
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details about that but that’s what he’s talking about in this in the temple physically they’re doing it
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programmed people and no non-programmed people are also doing it so let’s go to
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Hillary something’s coming up um let me read first let me read on hold on let me read verse 9. and and
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then I’m gonna explain Hillary so and he said to me meaning the Lord go in and
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see the awakened the wicked Abominations they do here in that hole in the wall so I went in and I saw their pictures of
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every form of creeping things and loathe some beasts and all the idols of the
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House of Israel painted round about on the wall so children there’s something called
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Museum programming and Hillary’s getting ready to announce
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some art contest I’m going to tell you about that in more detail but I want you to know that
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children are taught to draw pictures some of you that are older may remember an old cartoon called Harold and the
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Purple Crayon or are you where he would draw things and go into the pictures or
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um maybe Mary Poppins where they jump into the pictures Narnia so children some of the people I work with may have
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had like our one comes to mind if somebody that had a picture of a red dragon hanging in her room when she was
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a kid and she would use it as a portal to astral project
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um some people have them under their bed but but this is part of what’s called Museum programming and if you guys
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anybody followed some of the um using children as artwork and hanging
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them on walls so your your blood liners I’m going to use one I’m gonna use Galaxy story
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so so she’s a blood liner so you get all the full fancy rituals it may be done a little differently but the prints will
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be the same for somebody that’s done in a school but Museum program you have like these
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fancy parties and government people come in their tuxedos black tie and you know dressed up and children are hung nude on
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the wall oh trigger warning okay so this is related to Hillary coming up so I’m
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gonna let y’all know this is programming and so the children are hung there and so they’re walking around the rich in
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the elite with their hors d’oeuvres and they get to pick which child they want for that night and there’ll be rules
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like is this child Expendable can you mix them and take them all the way or is it somebody like Galaxy who’s a blood
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liner and this is part of her programming so you can only do this or that and so they end up bidding on the
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children but the children are Living Art and so in early programming children’s brains
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are not fully developed so when they give children concrete real stuff to see
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to try to put into their mind right because internally they have all of these worlds Museum programming and Zoo
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programming and all of that but a child needs to see it touch it feel it so the child becomes the art I am a
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portal I’m made to be a portal I’m a maid to have the Holy Spirit Come Through Me
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and so the child by hanging on the wall as the arch they’re going to become that
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portal later um of their strong emotions to get into that Spirit realm and bring something
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over okay and so they’re beginning to teach children that things hanging in
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museum and art can be used as a portal but you are the portal okay
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um does that make sense and then talk about mocking God you know because we are his art where is Handy work yes we
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are so going over to the Hillary article The Heading what did it say
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here I’ll pull it down it says Hillary Clinton to speak at White House Event for International Arts
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award okay so what she’s going to be doing is she’s going to be sending out a code for the museum programming in every
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Survivor so let me tell you a little bit about what she’s going to do um so Hillary’s going to speak at the
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White House Event on the 12th of September and it’s an International Arts award
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it’s called the 2023 premium Imperial Laureate so Hillary resides on the U.S nomination
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committee and she’s the one that recommends which of the art artists win
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the awards and it’s going to be broadcast it’s going in Washington D.C London Paris
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Rome Berlin and Tokyo so what that really means this is not a contest right
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they make it look like a contest hold on inside of programmed armies of the world
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there are certain pictures and themes and stuff in the museum that the child has incorporated in their mind
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and so it’s not really like these artists are getting there are doubt they’re really putting
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out a symbol right and it makes it look like a cover so so whatever they picked
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the powers that be have looked at the world system they’ve looked at the wars that are happening right now and they’ve
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picked a plan and they’re going to use certain pictures that are their winners and they’re going to use the speeches of
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those artists to change something in the museum programming and survivors this is
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going to happen September 12th so when you see this I want you to know that’s what’s happening for somebody like me or
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Amanda it means get ready because you’re going to have a lot of people that are destabilized
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right these events people get they hurt they struggle they have trauma because
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they’re getting ready to pull up a different program right so it’s really a fake art event
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and it’s a cover for releasing those codes and and continuing their foul
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behaviors as is the Super Bowl halftime show as is the Grammys as is the Oscars
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right as is fashion stuff right when you’re doing it they they make sure that
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in there there’s language sure okay and so
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the cree so it goes back to verse 10 I went in and I saw their pictures of every form of creeping thing loathsome
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beasts and all the idols of the House of Israel painted round about on the wall
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and there stood before these pictures 70 men of the Elders of the House of Israel
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and in the midst of them azaniah the son of shapath and he was
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just one of the 70 elders he’s basically going look here’s the church leaders they’re in here and they’re doing this
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right and um that guy zanaya he was a false prophet he was one
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of the ones when the real Prophets You Know Ezekiel Jeremiah Isaiah was saying y’all need to repent you just need to
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humble yourself and let God come in right and he’ll spare you he’s going to judge Israel and so these leaders were
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going no he’s not gonna he’s not gonna judge us just like we hear that now but we know clearly from scripture when this
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happens and this happens and this happens right um if if you don’t repent when you
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repent you’re humble and he he gives grace to the humble right the proud he
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resists right absolutely and so um they had believed that God had
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abandoned them and they thought he didn’t see so that’s just like happens in programming with the kids so these is
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doing this in the wall and going through um to the other realm apart from God
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because they thought he had abandoned him and they thought that he didn’t see and it says that they were um uh every
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man had his incense in his hand and a thick cloud of incense which represents prayer was going into prayer to these
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gods and then he said to me son of man have you seen what the Elders of the House of
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Israel do in the dark and every man in his secret chambers of idol pictures for
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they say the Lord will not see us and he has forsaken us and so the children will have and tell
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me if I’m getting too graphic and am I okay on time um you’re good okay okay so so children
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are made um early on in the programming they’re made to believe they’re hurt and they
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have on their taunted call on Jesus where’s your Jesus but you know what God meant for our parents to over and
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protect us right to oversee us and they know that that he’s not going
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to come like that he’s looking to the parents to be that protector and so the child’s made to believe that they’re
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rejected by God they can’t be saved and so then the Devil Comes Here Come these
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demons to say let me help you they’re right there and so the child is made to
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reject God at least imparted them and they they hate him because of what
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they’re going through and they’ve been mocked and um they go into this other realm of
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learning to go in counterfeit and to do that just like they thought that God had abandoned them
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um so it says verse 13 He also said to me
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yet again shall you see greater upon the Abominations which they’re committing and then he brought me to the entrance
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of the north gate and that’s where you see a woman weeping for tamus who’s a Babylonian God who is
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supposed to die annually and be resurrected so tamus is the same as
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Osiris remember he dies in Resurrection that’s just the Egyptian form
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um tammuz is the Mesopotamian form but he’s mocking Christ so in the temple he
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sees them crying for this fake God this fake Christ not for the the real
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the real God who was saying that somebody was saying and this is where I
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I personally just I can get lost in the minutia of Christianity but there’s somebody that
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was sharing that tammuz is the symbol of
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a cross and that Christians um really should be
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careful about idolizing that symbol and I would love to hear your thoughts on
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that Satan copies everything right he has his communion and you know of blood too the
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blood of Christ but yes there’s something called a tesseract and it’s too too much to get into here
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um the programming that’s where you get a part of a programming called Rosicrucianism the rosie cross and so
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it’s going to involve like you have the left brain the right brain and the head that’s like those um two pillars yaking
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and so it’s going to be yes so you know you don’t worship the cross but yes Satan uses it for the
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counterfeit got it so yes agree and so then like a rainbow
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yes yes absolutely and I still love the rainbow and as we should right I believe
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in taking things back not giving them up because programming’s in everything that’s why they saturate the world with
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it yeah so yeah redeeming it so the most beautiful rainbow
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like maybe four or five days ago and we just happened to be at the top of
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the hill driving the right direction and it was a full double rainbow and we could see where it lit up the trees
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where you could see where the leprechaun you know uh myths began because it literally made it look gold it was so
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pretty oh wow so sorry for an interruption but I had to share that it was so pretty wow I’ve not seen it
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between two trees so that’s pretty cool so verse 16 says and he brought me to the inner Court of the Lord’s House and
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behold the door of the Temple of the Lord between the porch and the bronze altar were 25 men with their backs to
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the temple and their faces toward the East and they’re bowing themselves down
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and worshiping the Sun God they’re worshiping the sun that’s raw if it’s Egyptian that’s Apollo if it’s Greek
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um so their worshiping isn’t Israel like supposedly Isis ra and
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something um Elohim or something mixed well l means god and is raw L I think I’ve not
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looked at it in years but I think it says Man meets God or man against God okay
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um and so then we get to the nose thing um verse 17 and then the spirit said to
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me have you seen this o son of man is it too slight a thing to the house of Judah to commit the Abominations that they
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commit here that they must fill the land with violence and turn back afresh to
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provoke me to anger and behold they put the branch to their nose
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and so that Branch to their nose um if you look it up some people some of the scholars will say that it’s um an act
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acting like you’re being humble by putting it over your nose in your mouth you’re not really being humble to a god
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little G God and many others say that it is an act of anger that it’s like
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thumbing your nose up at God and so can you see the provocation here it’s like
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they’re just tempting God like you know it just they’re not loyal at all
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so he says what does God say therefore I will deal in Wrath my eye will not spare
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I will not have pity and though they cry in my ears with a loud voice yet will I
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not hear them and I’m going to just Summarize chapter nine instead of reading it so God goes
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and he says this the spirit which is God calls the individuals in charge over the city of Jerusalem he calls the
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executioners he says come and he calls every man to bring in his hand to um his
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weapon and to Rally before the Bronze altar and he says among the group summoned was
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a man dressed in linen who carried a writer’s ink bottle at his side and then
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the cloud of God’s glory which would have been on The Mercy Seat he’s lifting it up he’s going to leave the temple
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from the cherubim and um and it’s lifted up so
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the man that’s clothed in linen he’s told to go out to the city in the midst of Jerusalem and put a mark on the
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foreheads of The Men Who sigh and groan over the Abominations that are committed
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in its midst so here’s the thing I just want to say before because this is Ragnarok you guys
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have heard me if you follow me that release the beast programming is going to happen God is the one who allows it to happen
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God lets evil kill evil you would sit and have
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um you would have when Israel would be judged you’d have like let’s say Syria come against them who is a pagan nation
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and then he judged Syria for hurt and Israel right so it’s like you’re reaping what you sow let me just
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say that but he says put a mark and and the Mark was back then too right this
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really happened that Temple was destroyed if Solomon he’s going to do it again mark on our heads what’s the sign
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it’s those who are in angst those who look at the world it doesn’t say those who were perfect okay it’s those who are
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looking at the world and they see the corruption and they’re trying to let God deal with them you don’t have to be
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finished there’s not a soul gonna be finished I say be in process right because people say like I’m not going to
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get deprogrammed before this app you just have to be in process be found in Christ yeah right he’s that’s you having
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angst over the state of the world right that’s what gives you that Mark of safety right not those who love evil who
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are trying to hide it right such a difference and and um there was one verse I wish I
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could remember these things stick out to me and I’m just mind blown but really the word that um came up the other day
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when I was listening was God just wants us acceptable and I thought that was really cool
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because that’s not staying perfect that’s not saying you know above reproach that’s just acceptable
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I would say yielded yeah right because then you’d say well what is acceptable right you know what’s that line but
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again what your point is right he does not expect us to fix us only he can fix
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us I can’t right I cannot White Knuckle it and so that would lead us to a time when the
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powers of the age to come he’s going to bring a Deliverance for a Remnant who is
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an angst and we’re going to shine like the stars the Bible says he comes and
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delivers us he comes with healing in our wings so you don’t have to be a finished work you just have to be somebody
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yielded and saying change me I want to see the world delivered right yeah and
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you go on into the scripture he says beginning in my house because it starts with us why because he’s going to pour
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out the powers of the age to come and the church will not be a mixture anymore we’re going to do the greater things
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than Christ did we’re going to be the latter and former rain church that do greater things than the beginning and
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there’s a lot of people that have problems with that but if you um I remember another one that stuck out to
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me was that Christ was the Pioneer and the Perfecter and so why would they say Pioneer if no
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one else was going to be able to do the work that he was doing
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well some I often wonder when he said you’re going to do Greater Works than me they didn’t have artificial intelligence
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back then they didn’t have people interfacing with quantum computers they didn’t have so even that is us doing
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some things that’s not in the scripture yeah that’s true good point but I just wanted to show
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that that has been happening all along it’s modeled inside of people programming those same things
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um it’s not new that’s that’s how Deliverance is going to happen yeah no and I love that and I love that you back
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that with scripture because that is an important piece for a lot of people um
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you know I I always get kind of stuck in the middle of stuff because there’s so
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many theologies and there are people who are so wise
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and so well studied that believe opposite things it’s like doctors
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believing different diets and it’s it’s where you have to go back to the
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fruit and the word because the Bible says the anointing is real not counterfeit no man
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needs to teach you so one we have to say is that person in process they’re a baby
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and they don’t know everything that you’ve walked with and learned and let people be in process that’s Holy Ghost
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you don’t you don’t have to shove the word down somebody’s throat amen you’re going to have as much of God as you want
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okay so but then there’s plenty of other people who think that they can understand the word apart from the
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spirit and they can’t right right if you have relationship and you spend time you
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worship and you invite his presence to come and you fellowship with him he will
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teach you himself right completely agree that’s why I mean
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it truly is the living Oracle it is God it is Christ it is the word it is the
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light it is the life all of those things are true um and it becomes like
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um this beautiful like you’re so drawn to it at a certain point
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but it is frustrating even for me and I’ve been studying for years
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and I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be for someone whose mind is split and I can’t imagine how frustrating it
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must be for someone new but I would say exactly what you just said is beautiful that just stick with the spirit and be
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led by the word because even the word can be used against people
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and the devil does he it becomes the religious spirit yes and he beats you up
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but the truth is most people don’t know the word right they’ll never go against
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his word there are some things that are above the word like kangaroos are not in the Bible but we know they exist right
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but it’s not going to change the scripture or the principles right right
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so and it’s interesting too because um Amanda and I just did the last one on religious spirits and then people like
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well there’s no such thing as religious spirits in the Bible and I’m just like you know they’re like where can you lead me to that and all I can say is that to
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me that person is exactly what we were talking about like you’re focusing on
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something that has nothing to do with the heart of God and um you know when you think about it was
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funny because like I think it was yesterday I was reading um Matthew and I was in Beatitudes is
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that did I say that correct you did and if you read Beatitudes again again with
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the idea of religious Spirits in your head you see it in a totally different
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way than you’ve ever seen it before um and so it is interesting to see how
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God can begin to to light up certain information for you
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even in your even in your confusion you know if your lungs are trying to do the best you can you can start seeing
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because if you bring it to him he’ll be like here here’s something that you’ve read a thousand times and now look at it
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again from this angle for your whole walk with the Lord but you know I want you to I want your listeners to know
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every time the truth comes the counter to the truth comes there were two trees
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in the garden God will always give us a choice do you want the real or do you want to be deceived
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always or or we would never have a choice so for every authentic spirit of
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God there is a counter to it the Bible doesn’t name every kind of spirit there
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is but it does tell you their Spirits it does sit and tell you their malevolent
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spirits and so you might say oh there’s no religious spirit well is there some kind of thing that makes you try to be
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legalistic just like the sand eater and the Pharisees exactly and it’s going to be influenced by spirit because the
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Bible says we’re not wrestling with man but Powers principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places so yeah does
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the bible name every Spirit it would be so redundant and so full right but is it Christ or is it Antichrist there’s only
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two and it’s a it’s a spirit behind it and one is kind and one is unkind and I
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think sometimes it can be that simple is somebody throwing this at you because
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they’re trying to one-up you or that they’re trying to press you into their cult or are they telling you this with
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with you know love in their hearts you can tell and I think that helps a lot and that’s
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one of the reasons why I love both you and Amanda because you both are just beautiful Spirits
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um and so thank you for this do you have time to answer a couple of questions I’ve got
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um four of them I’d love to yeah Okay cool so the first one is how does one get Memories Back so
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as to bring healing so the dissociative walls that are up
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you won’t know it at the beginning but that’s your will your will is saying
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when that wall is there the Mind wants to heal itself if you give it what it needs it’ll heal just like a broken bone
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so in order when somebody’s not able to get at the memories that’s going to be either they’re not get they don’t have
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the support there’s going to be some kind of belief that you have to identify are they
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afraid that they will um go crazy so then you’d have to sit and work on that helping them to see and
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learn how to titrate themselves it think of that wall like bricks that are fears and thoughts that are the dissociative
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walls and so you’re finding out what that person needs to go there right and
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so that’ll make the Wall come down so you you it’s your will you’ll see when
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you get through the wall that you had the power all the time but people are so in this day and age they don’t
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acknowledge their needs I don’t need anybody I don’t need this and that’s a lie they’re lying to themselves
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so if you can’t get to the memories you need to work on the resistance to the memories why can’t you what are you
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afraid of what need is not being met to get you there does that make sense yeah it does and it reminds me of one of the
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best things I ever heard is um Satan is a mouse with a megaphone and really and
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truly I I really do believe this and it was one of the questions that was in the chat uh this woman was saying I’m so
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afraid to go through this I’m so afraid and so this is a question that wasn’t on
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there but it makes me want to ask you I’m sure there are worse case scenarios
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of reactions but from from your experience hasn’t
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always been less than what the person feared okay yeah right same with
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probably therapists I’m sure therapists get spooked every once in a while and it’s probably never as bad as they they
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fear it’ll be it’s I’m not saying it’s easy it hurts like hell but you
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the worst part I used to have multiple personalities I wasn’t programmed but I do know what it’s like to get up on
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those memories and the worst part is right when you’re just about to drop in once you drop in it’s kind of like
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you’re watching you’re a part of your soul stepping back looking at what’s happening and so the worst part is
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bumping into it right um I’ve had the full-blown AB Reactions where you fall
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out on the floor in front of people in a public place and you’re talking in a little girl voice and it didn’t kill you
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so it’s like you lived through the hardest part right right helping them
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see that they can do it and there’s some people that are living in that only worse what what they’re what they’re
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going through and they’re having it on a regular basis rather than just let’s go let’s plow through this with God and get
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it done and that’s often one of the hindrances is that there’s still being accessed and they’re not safe too so go
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ahead which is another issue as well so resistance
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um when my mind is foggy forgetful Etc how do you know if this is spiritual or
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not not quite sure what they mean there so you you have to sit and figure it out
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is it long covered like nothing where you’re you’re uh having leaky brain
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right or is it your dissociating so you would sit and look for dissociative
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Clues you know do you have a history of trauma um do you have like PTSD symptoms you
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know like hyper vigilance nightmares all of that so I would need to sit and find out from the person are you a survivor
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of trauma and and is this dissociation and then you’d look for triggers right well what happened recently was it your
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birthday or did whatever so it’s like teasing it out that’ll help you see is it dissociation but we’re also having a
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lot of medical stuff affecting people right now so it’s not that easy from that question I’d have to get more
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information to help her figure that out okay cool um and then
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um I was told I had a Handler and to separate or cut ties with them and I
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have done so but God has not shown any Revelation about this
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this is problematic is that it’s one thing to sit and tell
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in general people how programming works but a lot of times you get these prophetic people and I’m not saying
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they’re not prophetic and they’ll be like ministering and they’ll say well I see this happening to you right here and
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this and the person starts to trust the the prophetic Minister because they’re
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an authority and they have no witness so so let’s just say and I’ve had this
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with a real client I had a real client who won one of her abusers went through
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healing and and went deep into healing and was trying to tell her I I’m your
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birth mother and I’ve been through rituals well this young lady that I’m
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working with is like I don’t have any memories of that the dissociative walls are up you could
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be hearing God but if it doesn’t even heal that person until they it’s only when they see their
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own past and they only process and so but I see a lot of people that are just
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guessing too you know you got all the people who mean well and they’ll be like this is your Handler and here’s the
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thing say that she has let’s say the handler was the mother
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and she’s cut it off her back parts are still attached to mother and she’s sneaking out and going it always happens
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so it’s like don’t even do it let’s stop playing God let God be their healer if they need to
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go back let him go back let them let them they’re responsible for their healing love them where they’re at stop
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trying to like warn them if they don’t do it on your time frame
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you know that it’s you can see where it’s frustrating though and um even uh
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there’s there are a lot of people out there that are fake victims and they’re
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they’re damaging real victims um one they’re they’re stealing their Valor
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but two they’re also destroying their legitimacy um and they’re pitted against each other
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do you have any comment on that oh that’s a big one I would say this I
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would not say they’re fake victims I would say they’re controlled opposition who’s programmed okay I see so many
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people and it breaks my heart some of these people I’ve met in person you know and it’s like they’re putting up making
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lots of money and peeling to the hearts of people that care
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and they’re selling these stories you know and what they are is their
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controlled opposition some of them may think in their front Parts they’re free but most of them I
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can tell it’s a Croc you know and they’re there to be safety nets to catch people I get the people
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who come to me and go oh is that so-and-so’s Ministry and I followed them and they’re really reprogramming us oh my God
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and so that is everywhere that is so everywhere so one thing is if you have
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somebody who always has this information that they’re up there on their show telling you like oh and you know We
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rescued these children and I’m in this court and I’m doing that nobody that you’d be killed
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if you were not controlled opposition right if you weren’t of benefit to them
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they have a hundred roads to Sunday into you through your programming the people that are really trying to get
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free are scared they know the risk and they don’t want to be all up front
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it’s so it’s like just know that that is so common and they are many people lying you know
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it’s so frustrating to see someone you know that is a real victim being re-victimized
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and and like you said sometimes it’s just for the gift it’s just for money it’s like all different things it’s just
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oh all right so the next question was or the last question was I was told I have
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been mind controlled in SRA but I have no recollection of it how do I know for
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sure again same thing happening
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it’s like why are you know somebody could say you know I’m wondering if and
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give them why why do you think is it just you thought it in your mind because like if you if you’re not able to tell
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somebody that you think they were SRA and tell them why you probably have no right telling them you know you can have
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the knowledge in the spirit realm but if you don’t have the wisdom to know how to apply that knowledge it’s better to
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right so if this person has no knowledge of it
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put it on the Shelf don’t worry about it right pray about it say God if this is
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true help me to see if they don’t see and they really are SRA they’re not ready
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when somebody doesn’t see it the wall is up for a reason I have had pastors
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try to do theophosic or something and push through that dissociative wall the person has a psychotic break and they’re
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in the hospital that wall they put up that wall says the subconscious is saying conscious mind you can’t deal
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with this right now and so we need to respect it you invite them to take it down you do the work to
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help them be ready to take it down sure don’t start telling people their reality
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it just makes them confused yes yes this is so good Gina thank you so much do you
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have any last words things that have come to your mind since we started no you did really good
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um I do want to let people know because um I have a conference coming up okay cool yeah that was my next question what
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do you have going on and where can people find you yeah um um Kelly Hawley at Warrior bride
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Ministries out of the Atlanta area in Georgia is hosting a conference I’ve
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done a conference with her before and you can find her and information about the conference at
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warriorbrideministries.com or you can go to my website and get information it’s Gina hyphenphilips.com
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um and so you know I’ll be one of the speakers and and I don’t know exactly what all we’re
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doing yet but it’s the October the 20th through the 22nd I also want to find me
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there that would be so fun um thank you so much I hope to have you back I actually have this dream of
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having you and um Amanda buys on together so I’m gonna see if I can make that work yeah and maybe Dr Laura Sanger
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too oh I know Doctor Laura I love I love her I got to meet her finally she came
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to Dallas and I got to meet her it was so awesome I had no idea you knew her that’s really cool she’s a precious lady
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her family’s pretty awesome too yes yes it would be it would be really fun so thanks everyone for coming and um you
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know how to get a hold of her I have it in the description box it’s also in the chat I put it in there twice
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um I hope everybody has a great day tomorrow I will be back for part three with Cheryl back on the MK ultra
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um the green bomb speech it’s it’s really amazing to hear her she’s always
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dreamed of going through it line by line and I’m like why not let’s do it so I’m gonna check it out yeah everybody have a
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great have a great day