3 July 2024

no URL, seems she may have deleted it off TwitterX

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:10
Hey guys, I don’t even know if you guys want to talk or whatever. I’ve never hosted a space before II I don’t know if you want to

Unknown Speaker 1:35
Okay.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:38
Yay. Okay, I won’t be the only one talking. So I guess I’ll just start talking about like what’s going on even though I had absolutely no plan for this. So, I just wanted to kind of make a space where I talk about what is going on right now with this whole like reptile hybrid. Steven, what’s his name thing, and I noticed a few things that were super alarming. Such as they purposely triggered Gray, and then we’re screaming and antagonizing and calling him crazy and kept telling him to calm down and it was just screaming and the accusations being made have gotten gone from you know, trying to make Emma out as this awful person. Because she was a hypnotist. She took a week of like a hypnotist class. It’s full blown out of control. And while Gray was yelling back at reptile hybrid, you know, I overheard him saying to his audience of about 300 people that what’s called MK you know, this guy is an MK Ultra survivor and all these MK Ultra people are out there and this is why, you know, they’re very dangerous and MK Ultra survivors are dangerous because see how crazy they are. See how crazy they react. And framing everything is completely wrong, completely. Destroy disregarding the fact that they were just non stop antagonizing gray saying all this stuff that wasn’t true, which is very hard to be in a situation where you’re listening to outright lies being said, and then having literally everyone just scream and yell and tell you to calm down and everything even though you’re trying to call out the lies. It’s a infuriating place to be so I just wanted to make a space to talk about that. And then after they got off the space, or they kicked the gray off the space and I was still on. They were starting to the Stephen guy was saying as if it were fact that Emma is Cathy’s handler, Cathy O’Brien handler and that she has firm control over her and that’s why Kathy is doing this and that’s why Kathy is doing that because Emma is apparently, Cathy O’Brien handler now and they’re trying to say MK Ultra survivors are dangerous. And this is how they treat people. And they’re all crazy. And it’s just a lot of bullshit about money. You know, she made an LLC, which is like, Who fucking cares? That’s just what you do for taxes. And who cares if they’re making money off of it, Steven Greer makes money off of the UFO stuff. Why are only certain people allowed to make money off of it? And who cares if they make money off of it. And gray isn’t trying to be dangerous or come across as dangerous. That’s something that’s now a talking point. The whole point of the mask and the voice modulator was because, you know, when you have gone through satanic ritual abuse, there is a level of darkness involved that is, unfortunately, recognizable to other people. And yeah, you know, he stated a long time ago that the whole point of the mask, and the voice modulator was you know, to kind of give a I don’t know, heads up without saying anything to others. Like, I know, it’s not something he did to be dangerous or come across as spooky, or whatever these people are saying. But it’s gotten to a point where this is becoming dangerous. They’re saying they’re giving out people’s phone numbers. They’re making false police reports. They’re finding our addresses, you know, it’s completely out of hand. But to you know, mute someone and then go on spaces, you know, 300 people to then say, you know, oh, Emma, you know, I know for a fact Emma is Kathy O’Brien’s handler. And that’s why she hasn’t been like, it’s absolutely ridiculous. But then this reptile hybrid account who I don’t know, he’s got so many followers is like, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, that makes sense. It’s, it’s just, it’s just weird. And it’s very clearly like this completely fabricated setup scenario between the two of them. And it’s the whole you know, silence any dissent while hoarders hoarding the audience type of situation that is just very worrying to me because this is getting this is beyond just the internet this is this has gone to our homes this has gone to you know, some of our families it’s it’s ridiculous. This Stephen guy is denying doing anything that he has done. He is twisting everything around. He has been online just trying to tear people apart while saying he is a survivor and it’s just a whole thing that’s been going on and I have no idea what I was planning on saying in this space, but I just felt like I needed to say something because it is just out of control.

Speaker 1 8:37
Well, was this the same guy? That was like starting shit a few weeks ago?

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 8:42
Yeah, nope. Well,

Speaker 1 8:44
there was days I don’t know. Sorry. Oh, no, no, I just

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 8:50
there was someone a few weeks ago who was doing similar stuff. And then now there is this guy within the past week who has like I don’t know gone like apeshit and like, decided to do all this crazy stuff. But this one’s name is like Steven some I don’t know his last name. I already forgot.

Speaker 1 9:14
Yeah. Who’s been getting dogs because that’s crazy.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 9:18
Oh, he posted Grey’s phone number. Oh my fucking God. And he was like, everyone go call him like it’s it’s ridiculous. And then I got like this weird ass call to like my house for like animal control. And then I never saw them again. Even though there’s nothing wrong and then it turned out to be the same day someone made like a wellness check report on Gray

Speaker 1 9:54
was weird. Fucking at a hand, man. I mean, I’m lucky that I’ve Been busy with like the moving stuff. But hearing that people are starting to get docks and all that shit. It’s like when, when this internet stuff starts seeping into real life. It is so scary. Oh my god.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 10:16
I know. And then people just act like it’s funny and online stuff but like it’s kind of getting wild and I don’t know. I don’t even know why I made the space. I was just like, oh my god, I have to say something.

Speaker 1 10:34
Was the space you were talking about? Did that happen? Like just now? Yeah,

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 10:40
I think it’s still going on actually. It’s a ex CIA slash NSA contractor. Oh, Stephen D. Kelly. That’s who? He’s like. I don’t know. So I guess he’s like ex CIA. Just weird.

Speaker 1 11:08
Man, please fuck and people. I know. I don’t know. It’s weird.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 11:17
It’s just so awkward. Like I thought, I don’t know. It was like, oh my god, I’m gonna say something. And then I come on a space. And I’m like, I have no idea what to say. Hey, Aaron. What?

Speaker 1 11:32
I was asking Aaron if he had something to say because as you know, whoever’s been watching this and all this stuff. We can you guys can all talk about it. Like it’s absolutely insane. You know?

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 11:48
Oh, yeah, it is. He’s right next to me. But like, he’s like, I don’t know what to say.

Unknown Speaker 12:00
Well, oh my god.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 12:02
I don’t even know. I just went on a rant and then I’m like, Oh my God. Now I’m out of energy. What do I say? Oh my god, it’s just so ridiculous. I just sit here sometimes. And I’m reading the shit that goes on. And I’m like, What the hell? How do they even come up with this stuff? It’s so ridiculous. I don’t know.

Speaker 1 12:29
Yeah, I did not. I didn’t know what I was planning to say on this space either. I haven’t been on a space in like a really long time. Man. This is like, this would be funny. Is like it’s so weird people. I don’t know if people still do this. But yeah, people were always fighting spaces. And I was like, you know, back when I had like, different accounts and stuff and then got banned, but you know.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 12:55
Oh, yeah, that’s what you told me about that. It’s been a long time since I’ve been. They were just like, everyone was just screaming. I was like, Oh my God.

Speaker 1 13:05
What’s going on? You think if these guys were FCA, they’d have more of a handle on their emotions. Right? And no, that’s kind of terrifying, though that right there. You know. Oh, my God.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 13:25
When are you move, or no one will ask you that publicly. That’s okay. Okay. Dammit. I can’t be a normal person online. Even the way I’m a normal person, but damn it. Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t even know what to talk about.

Speaker 1 13:50
Maybe maybe like talking about it probably helped. Yeah. Well, thank

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 13:56
you for not leaving me alone to be a speaker on my own space.

Speaker 1 14:06
Like, I refuse to get embarrassed about anything. So I’m here for you.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 14:13
Thank you, you totally would have gone up with me on stage during a talent show. Like I could feel it from you. You would have been that friend would be like yes, I’ll go with you.

Speaker 1 14:22
Yeah, it helps that I just took a huge Deb to and then you sent me this. I was like, What the fuck who’s fucking around? You know? Yeah.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 14:29
It’s just so ridiculous. But then it started to bleeding into realness and you know, offline. It’s just people are crazy pants. I don’t know. Yeah,

Speaker 1 14:45
people knew stop calling everybody to shit. Dial. That’s when things get like yeah, no.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 14:55
Absolutely. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 15:01
I hope I don’t know what Greg can even do I mean Daxing is illegal so you know it is

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 15:09
banned people do it all the time

Speaker 1 15:13
people do it and threaten it all the time but I’m pretty sure that that’s illegal

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 15:18
oh damn,

Speaker 1 15:19
and that he can like make a police report I think you know especially with who knows who it is or has proof of who it is you know

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 15:29
oh oh that must be why oh because didn’t Craigslist have a problem with that like a while ago

Speaker 1 15:38
I didn’t know Craigslist was still a thing to be honest with you.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 15:43
It is it’s only good for free stuff though. Otherwise are but also don’t meet them because catch and they might kill you

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 15:57
like a bad idea

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 16:02
but oh my god fireworks already?

Speaker 1 16:05
Yeah, people have been doing fireworks all week over here since fucking June.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 16:11
Oh my god wait aren’t you wait no you’re not in the valley you’re like outside of the valley right? No, I

Speaker 1 16:18
am in the valley people are yep in the valley Oh yeah, they’ve oh my god there there’s always like people that are no chance that there anytime there’s a holiday to be had. That involves fireworks people take advantage of it that are like into that shit. Like the fucking I don’t know what it’s called when you’re into fire or whatever. But yeah. Oh, pyromania.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 16:47
Yeah,

Speaker 1 16:49
I was gonna say like a pyrotechnic or some shit that I was like nah, that’s not right.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 16:55
Yeah, no, I know what you’re talking about. I just thought they were still are fireworks still illegal in LA

Speaker 1 17:03
Yeah I’m pretty sure that like a lot of people get their stuff like outside of the county or whatever but they can shoot off like certain things but not like full on fireworks I think but there’s so many people that get away with it here there’s people on my street that are cops or something so they get to light it up a lot like during the holidays and they don’t you know get in trouble because they like you know

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 17:39
oh my god my cat. Can you hear my cat?

Speaker 1 17:43
Emma’s here Oh, I didn’t hear cat oh am a girl you would not believe

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 17:56
Speaker Oh yeah. Oh, sorry. I totally didn’t even see I wasn’t even looking at my phone

Unknown Speaker 18:06
Okay, okay

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 18:10
I just I just let I just yes okay yeah,

Unknown Speaker 18:14
yeah guys

Unknown Speaker 18:17
well, that was a shit show and a half

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 18:19
oh my god

Speaker 2 18:22
damn Mike because he knows I got evidence on all them suckers and I’m about to put a video together because man I don’t care. He just you hear him because I record all that shit. He said multiple agencies multiple governments has given him the A okay to do whatever he wants. I have not asked I’ve never asked for any favors, man. I’ve never pulled any cards. I really have other guys fish I wanted to take down but I think I’m gonna I think

Speaker 3 18:46
the reason I wanted to join the call tonight was I had been involved in some degree of therapy with the survivor and there were a lot of soul fragments a lot of parts and I was wondering what your experience is can they be successfully reintegrated?

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 19:11
Um I honestly I think that that’s like a individual to individual type thing.

Unknown Speaker 19:20
Like if you guys hear me

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 19:24
Oh yeah. Oh, can you hear me?

Unknown Speaker 19:28
Can you hear stellar? She can hear you can you hear

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 19:37
oh, no happen. Hopefully he can still hear me but so I’d say it’s like on an individual to individual basis like and reintegration can happen but like I think it’s more of like you know, just a matter of like getting in tune with all the different parts and you know, something like that, or I’m not too like aware of the whole into GRI integration process, but like, I know that there are some people who have done it

Unknown Speaker 20:23
can you hear her?

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 20:27
I guess not. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 20:28
you might have to cycle him down and bring him back up.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 20:33
How do I do that? You

Speaker 2 20:34
remove the mic, and then you send him a mic back. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 20:42
Also grant Mr. In here, too.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 20:44
Okay. Oh, hi, guys. And then I’m trying to if you guys want mics, I can give you mic. So we were literally like I ranted for a bit. And then Caitlin and I were just like, talking about random stuff, and my cat is going and seen it my door, hold on. If you guys want a mic, I’ll put it on. And

Speaker 2 21:11
now I called this guy up a year and a half ago, y’all just want to jot that down. And if he goes, go scroll back on my page to then you’ll see all this crap, the good stuffs around December That’s that same space that we were just in, that’s the same space that I was told that I was a demon, that I deserved to be burned at the stake because I was a witch, it was my fault that I was kidnapped, it was my fault that my parents were murdered, that the common denominator was me, and that entire room just be raided me. I mean, and I was at a really, really bad mental mental spot, then. And just the fact that I had sent some of these individuals in that space evidence, you know, because at that point in time, I was really just desperate for help. I wanted someone to care about trafficking, because it’s still going on, and having to process and the majority of people don’t have the emotional capacity to care about anything else other than themselves, unless they’re getting something out of it, whether it’s likes, clicks, monetary value from, you know, the grifting thing that they want, at the end of the day, it’s it’s not genuinely about the survivors, the children. And that that’s a huge issue to me, like, I understand that a lot of people don’t care about me anymore, because I’m an adult. And you know, that sucks. But the fact is that these locations are still doing this to other children. So whether you care about me or not, can you at least look into these locations that a lot of survivors are screaming at people to to docs, or to go do that take that energy that you are taking to survivors that are already traumatized, that are barely hanging on, most of us are only hanging on because we will not let this pass on to our children. And to get told on a daily basis. I can’t even tell you the amount of times and daily that I get told on a live myself, and I’ve seen it happen to numerous survivors on here. Ama Gray, most of the trolling that I get is for standing up for you to and I don’t regret a damn bit of it. I think you’re worth it. I appreciate what you’re doing to this community. Like the fact that you give people space to even tell our stories when so many people do what we just heard right there. It’s strategic it’s it’s literally

Unknown Speaker 23:12
it’s it’s their

Speaker 2 23:13
mind fucking people. They get you riled up, they get you triggered, okay. And then you have people that come in as rescuer mode you have people come in to be in and an egg it up. You have Kumar in there always and I was surprised he melted down a little bit. I don’t know why that was a little weird for him. He did a few shit, but he’s normally in the center of it. And reptile feels untouchable. A lot of these individuals I genuinely believe are paid shields because they go from person to person, accusing us to being CIA of being agencies of and slandering the crap out of us. And I’ve documented all of this from beginning because I’m going to be quite honest with you. I didn’t trust any of y’all because I didn’t know who was playing games. Who was being genuine. Who was sent. I don’t know, you know what I mean, at the end of the day, it’s not because I don’t care. I don’t believe you. It’s just, I mean, I’ve been played by some people that I didn’t love. And Emma, when I’ve seen her resume, I looked at it like, man, it’s I understand the skeptism. But when someone just sits there and puts off and paints this narrative, and you have so many people that just blindly following it. Do you not remember 2015 2016 That was like the New Age, everything. Everyone was wearing chunky necklaces. Everyone was into yoga and Reiki and meditation. Like that was the whole friggin vibe then. So to sit there and say that, like you’re into mind control because you took a hypnosis class. I didn’t take a hypnosis class, but I did Reiki I did meditation, bro. I tried to light all my motherfucking chakras because I was mad as fuck, you know what I mean? So like I can understand, trying to like learn all these different things, especially if it’s a prerequisite to get like, you know, whatever degree that you’re doing, and I combed through her resume I did and I’m saying that I told that to her too. I didn’t see anything malicious. I spoke to her numerous times. She’s never pressured me to go on her show. And if anything we’ve scheduled numerous times, but stuff in my life always come Thumbs up, right? When, you know, like my son went missing. And, you know, for kids going to court literally every time we planned to have a show something dramatic or insane happens. So it’s not the right timing. She’s never pressured me like, you know, you need to come on my show or if you’re not a survivor like Steven has, that man had the audacity a year ago and this was a recorded space by a dear friend of mine, thank God to tell me that what I was doing was counterproductive that if I really wanted to take my energy somewhere where it mattered, that I would stop everything I was doing and focus on the Getty. And you know what I did? I customers asked the fuck out. I damn sure did. But I sent him all the shit that I had been posting for like three or four years on my tic toc page, you know, because you might I don’t know you, dude. But you sitting here talking all this stuff talking about all trafficking stops at the Getty. That’s one of many locations. And yes, I do think it’s important, but you’re so dismissive. Hello survivors. And for somebody who wants to be the damn President of the United States, do you think seriously think anybody is going to endorse that type of toxic gas behavior towards you don’t I mean, there has to be some type of moral integrity, there has to be some type of ethics, there has to be some type of line that we don’t cross. At the end of the day, I am perfectly okay with you not agreeing with me. You don’t even have to fucking like me, but have some damn respect. You don’t I mean, like, I don’t understand the tactics. And all these attacks that are happening on survivors Take that damn energy to these locations that we’re talking about. Going through one person, as the Savior to anything is a cult mentality. And I just say that with my whole chest, and I would have said that in that damn room, but they won’t give me a mic, because we don’t have the spills. 50,000 talk, we had a whole trial man, they were justifying telling me that haven’t voted about burning me at the stake because I’m a witch, like dead at same fucking space talking about I, I’m a demon. That’s my fault. I was kidnapped. It was my fault. My parents murder and these same people standing up for that man. And you heard him say that with his whole damn chest ain’t gonna do nothing to me. I talked to multiple agency, I talked to multiple customers, or countries, they said do whatever he did. I said that and I recorded it. I ain’t playing with you. You say that you usually intento is down on that, sir. Because that’s psychological warfare utilizing in spaces. And I’ve, I’ve documented it well over a year, multiple people. And you seem to think that you can get away with it, and one on one, you could. But if we could collectively put our egos in our pocket for a minute and get our head out of her ass and come together on United Front, we could actually change things. It’s gonna get a little bit rocky. But these things that these people are doing are illegal. And when it’s a numbers like this, it’s gang stalking. It’s cyber stalking, pushing people to the point where they almost done allied themselves in a recorded space man, that’s, that’s criminal. And, you know, I’m really blessed that I have supportive people. And I’m really blessed that a lot of other people do. But there’s some people that don’t, man. And when you get people to that point, and you and you laugh about it, and you get likes, and you and you feed off that man that tells me everything I need to know about you and your intentions. You are not here for disclosure, you are damn sure I’m not here for advocates, you know, to advocate for survivors. You’re not here for truth. Because if you were here for truth, you would, you’d stand 10 toes down on it. You’d listen to the external evidence you’d read it. You wouldn’t sit here and circle jerk damn egos. What? For you to get your own rock sauce, man. You can sit there and throw any damn stone you want at me, bro. I’m gonna collect them. And next thing you can look your asses in the fucking dirt. And where am I going to be? I’m gonna build my foundation. And I’m advocating for every other fucking survivor do the same thing. Stop letting these people trigger us now Gray, I get it bro, because I got triggered early in a different space. So I understand that they do that on purpose. It’s strategic. They’ll meet you over and over and over again. They’ll sit here and say something and you know, and then scream and talk all over you just to get you riled up just it’s called reactive abuse. That’s the legal term to it. And sorry for ranting they just don’t let me talk there.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 28:51
No, no, like, that’s what I did when I first came on here and I ranted and then I just sat and I was like, I don’t know what to say. And then and then Caitlin and I like Caitlin saved me and then we just like talked about stuff but no, I mean, I could I saw it happening and I was like oh my god, it has been a minute since I have seen something like this like holy shit. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 29:16
to recalibrate after I called him out the last time.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 29:20
Oh my god like that. It was it was like, just gross. And then to like, just take everything and twist every thing and then like saying oh Emma’s

Speaker 2 29:37
on, I reported over 72 comments, abusive comments of Stevens and every single effing one of them are approved. Why do you think he can’t respond? Why do you think he can’t comment? Why do you think he can’t post the only thing he can do is go in spaces. And I was waiting for him to slip up because I’m gonna go at that too.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 29:55
Oh my god, and then like yeah, Did you I left after I started hearing? Stephen just boldface Oh, I recorded all

Speaker 2 30:08
that slander so that way I could send it to Emma and gray so that they can contact their attorney because I’d assume 10 grand, every single law, and I’d make it because the burden of proof falls on him in the court of law.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 30:19
That’s very true. I mean, just don’t just sit there and be like, oh, yeah, she Emma totally has Cathy O’Brien. I got like, What are you even saying at this point? It is just fucking obnoxious.

Speaker 2 30:36
I help them pockets match that mouth, bro. Oh my god, I

Speaker 1 30:42
just FYI. AJ, Nick wants to speak. He has his little hair braids. Oh,

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 30:51
sorry. I totally stop looking at my phone. Thank you. No

Speaker 4 30:54
worries. Hi, stellar, Angela, love and light, everybody getting over a sore throat. So I’ll keep this quick. What happened in that previous space that we were in is similar to a time when over 20 years ago, was helping with camerawork and directing the public access TV show on second thought, with William Wagner. So we were at hearing Cathy O’Brien share in a little church, I think it was down in Los Angeles, just 20 years ago. But it was a small, very small conference about 50 people. And after Kathy finish sharing, a dude in a suit in the audience stood up a very accusatory, and like he was planted, he was pointing the finger, like you’re a liar, you’re just making this up. And I just thought, wow, like that, in my mind, based on what I now know. It adds more credence to the that the whole thing is happening. So I know it’s happening. Don’t get me wrong there. But for anyone that’s skeptical. I know this is only only anecdotal. But I’m telling you God’s honest truth that really happened. So this has been going on for a long time and something for the listeners to consider in the speakers. It didn’t really stop in a laboratory, it’s now spread to your airwaves. So they call it TV programming, and your program your beliefs. So there’s a really good book called What to Say When You Talk To Yourself by Dr. Shad Helmstetter. And it’s like a psychotherapy book. But the point in the book is, you have these different levels. And people think your beliefs are the core of your being, well, your beliefs are determined by what you program yourself with, right? You could have a sticky note on your mirror, I’m gonna have a great day, this is going to be awesome. Or you could just be telling yourself, I suck. You know, Britney Spears is hotter than me, blah, blah, blah, all this mental programming, we get to make you feel a certain way. So that’s all I wanted to really say. Just don’t stay glued to your TV set. Be in circles like this, go out and play outside. That’s all for now. Thanks.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 33:05
No, I appreciate that. Because that’s like, good, really good to keep in mind because it’s all programming and it’s all like, you know, I think of like, my You’re our brains is like computers. And our minds are like software. And it’s like, kind of terrifying when you think of it that way. But yeah, no, that’s a thank you for saying all that.

Speaker 4 33:32
You’re super welcome. Thank you for having me up. I love you all, agape love. Yeah, check out my music when you got a minute. Don’t Don’t leave the space stay here. But thanks a lot. I’m trying to write Healing frequencies because that’s a big thing too. On that topic for like, maybe 30 seconds. The 11th harmonic frequency now is very powerful. I found a clip on Instagram. And the presenter was like a TED talk, but not TED Talk, get a jumbotron screen behind him. And the screen behind him basically was showing microscopic level Healing frequencies on 11 harmonic. So if you had a piano keyboard, you would like press the middle C, and you go up 11 notes. So C, D, E, F, G, and all the way 11 That would be an F on the next octave, C and F together. So there’s an example of 11th harmonic healing frequency. And if you if I can find this clip, I will I will repost it when I come across it again. But it was actually destroying cancer cells on a microscopic level. And now, just to give you like the happy dance, Beatle songs have a lot of C’s and F’s, it’s like, you know, like, all you need is love like the seed f the G that happy music so it’s there’s a reason they call it like feel good music right? It actually makes you feel good inside it heals inside. So check that out the 11th harmonic.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 34:47
Oh, that makes that that you know, I use a lot of like, frequency like type music that like really super helped me so that actually makes didn’t even that’s really cool. That’s c and f you said

Speaker 4 35:03
it can be, I think it can be any 11th harmonic, but the C and the F, everybody kind of knows what a middle C is on a piano. So yeah, just go up 11 notes and it’ll be the F. Yeah. And you can also just expand the octaves out, like, try the bass notes and the high F’s, because something about the farther apart the frequency was, that was also valuable. So you want like the low seas, and that was totally on this. And that was not at high F. But you got my point?

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 35:35
No, no, sweet. Thank you so much. I’m gonna like that helps me narrow it down to like, oh, that’s what that is. So no, I think

Speaker 2 35:42
another really good thing to remember when you’re in spaces like this, and I think this is more for gray and myself. I’m just repeating things that have been told to me that I fail at times to do remember in the moment, but when people are trying to provoke you to get that reaction that they need to promote their narrative, answer their abusive question with a question if you could flip it off on them and jumble them up. Nine out of 10 times it backfires. If you’re able to maintain that composure. It doesn’t work for everybody. It’s really hard, especially when you get super triggered, you know, and that’s intentional. That’s why you have so many people doing the same thing over and over again. They want to break you down. It’s literally psychological warfare utilized in spaces.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 36:22
Man, it’s like you don’t you like these people see it? Like I almost I feel like I have an advantage because it’s like, well, you can’t beat my ex husband of 10 years because they

Speaker 2 36:33
can’t beat me man, because I was playing chess and fucking risk and they’ve been playing checkers. I’ve been mapping out and I got diagrams, bro, I got a whole fucking PDF. What do you want to? I’m ready. I wonder if we can turn this into a documentary something because I’m making a book out of it. My experience on trying to navigate the UFO twitterverse it’s a fucking shit show, especially for survivors that just want justice. These people Man, these paid shows don’t want the shit coming out. And I need to send you this document that I just got sent to me today, man because I got some dirt on these effing liars. And I got screenshots to prove their effing liars. And I am excited, man, because I’m really upset because, you know, I’ve never claimed to be a part of, you know, my family being a part of a coal. I’ve always said I’m a military brat. My family is part of agencies. I don’t know the whole story. I was just kidnapped, blah, blah, blah. But to read it on paper, you know, that cognitive dissonance kicks in, I go, Well, I’m upset. I’m mad as fuck. But I am excited because I can prove that a lot of these respected efforts are they’re literally liars. You know what I mean? Like they have the power, they have the ability, they have the knowledge to expose this trafficking that they were complicit to, and I understand that. But if they could be honest about it, you know what I mean? Do the right effing thing. I think most people would show compassion for following orders. I think the majority of the population understands how the military works, and holds enough capacity to understand how difficult that living with those thoughts of the things that you have to you know, you have on repeat in the back of your head, man, you know how PTSD works, especially you can’t run from that doesn’t matter how many drugs how much alcohol you drink, man, it comes back sooner or later. So like, I think that some of these individuals are getting punished enough. But these ones that are promoting, there’s a pattern. I don’t know if you’ve been watching, go back and listen to all reptile spaces go back. I’ve only been on this app a year and a half man and I’ve, that’s the first people I encountered. That’s the first group I tried to expose. And looking at circling back around a year and a half later. Can you imagine how far we’d be if we would have not played into these games? Can you imagine?

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 38:33
Oh my god. So this has been I mean, it just seemed like such a complete and utter setup. I mean, he was like saying to the audience, or you know, of 300 people like see these MK Ultra survivors. They’re crazy. They’re crazy. ravier

Speaker 2 38:50
The only way to do it is to go through him to promote him to do all this stuff through him. He wants to be president. It’s me, myself and I it’s his fucking ego. It’s one of those circle jerk egos bro, you need to defeat that’s literally standard narcissistic. And I’m not a doctor, I’m a I just have a lot of experience with narcissists and sociopaths. And, man, he needs that ego filled. That’s why he steps on others man, instead of holding space for other survivors to do on their own mission, which a normal person would do, especially someone who has that background and a qualification. You know, they’d be like, you know, this is what I’m doing. But you know, I hope you succeed, you know, and I wish you the best. No, it’s like if you don’t stop everything you’re doing and come and help me with this. And bla bla bla bla bla you don’t care.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 39:34
Yeah, that’s totally totally narcissistic and ridiculous.

Speaker 1 39:40
Also, Jacob, and and AJ, Nick had their hand up. Jacob was first but AJ, I know you put yours down. will

Unknown Speaker 39:51
will will do better for you. Thank you.

Speaker 4 39:54
I’m just going to probably I have to go help a friend right now. So I’ll be back later. Hopefully, but it’s been a wonderful space.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 40:04
Oh, thank you for coming. And I sorry I was. I’m just,

Speaker 4 40:08
I don’t know, it’s just we’re just in the universe trying to figure itself out right now. And we’re all trying to have one collective loving consciousness. But most of us are so dead and asleep. We don’t realize it yet. So you know what I mean? Just take that with a grain of salt. Are you I think my train of thought stop at your station. Have a good one.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 40:28
Oh, you too.

Unknown Speaker 40:33
Hey, Jacob.

David Wilcock 40:39
Hey, guys, thanks for having me. I kind of just wanted to point out real quick, just like how dangerous somebody like Stephen is because he builds the cult of personality around himself. And what’s really interesting is just kind of the way they act like children around this whole thing. Even when Gray had the mic, you know, they would sit there and mimic him, like some like school yard taunting. And that’s 100% psychological warfare. I mean, it seems silly, but it totally is. And I’m always wary of people who brag about being ex intelligence, because from what I understand, there is no such thing as ex intelligence once dagli

Speaker 2 41:30
Why do you think my grandma sitting there talking smack she mad as hell at me?

Speaker 5 41:35
Exactly. Once, once you’re in the agency. That’s it, you’re in the agency, there’s no leaving. And so I mean, that makes me wary, just like first and foremost, and

Speaker 2 41:45
then look at his family’s family’s agency. He’s generational, like my family. And he’s sitting there talking to the mess. Exactly.

Speaker 5 41:53
And so like that, that just makes me wary right there. And then just the flippant way he talks about being a survivor is really concerning. To me. It’s even people who have come through on the other side, I guess, for lack of a better term, it’s still not easy for a lot of people to talk about. And he just says the same thing, repeatedly. And it’s just like, really flippant. And it’s just, yeah, he’s a really dangerous person. And even on a digital space, it just makes it just makes me really nervous. You know, just even having him involved in all of this, and I really hope people pay attention and definitely just stay away from them.

Unknown Speaker 42:54
I like what you said.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 42:58
Yeah, no, I definitely agree. And Caitlin, you’re amazing. Like, I don’t even know how to rent a space and you’re like doing it for me to say, thank you.

Speaker 1 43:10
Fuck, I just tried to press a button and now I’m fucking. But um, yeah, I’ll be helping you. I have to heat up a burrito, but also be here. And on the mic or whatever.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 43:23
Okay, cool. I hope the burrito is amazing. But yeah, this, uh, this whole thing’s, like, you know, bleeding into like, personal lives, like offline. And it’s just like, so what? Like, I don’t know what happens after like, Well, I mean, I guess they could either escalate or blows over. But Angela, what have they done in the past, like, after they’ve

Speaker 2 43:54
shared photos of my children, they promoted telling people to burn me at the stake, the smear campaigns and the slander was disgusting. I have it all documented. I’m going to go through all my screenshots with the girl group Jetski. And because we talk a shit about all y’all when you talk about it, I, I got it all on the screen record. And I don’t care if your space is recorded or not. If you talk just shit I’m recording because you could delete it. And then it’s gone unless we go and when you go to file a case, is it you? First of all, this is what you do. You go in, slap him with a cease and desist. And then you’ve served them with a civil summons. And then while you’re going through your case, you file a motion for discovery. And you can literally get access to their social media accounts. anything pertaining to your case, whether the space is anything any method that they’re using to abuse you, you can gain access to. And then that is admissible. Once it’s evidence the whole world can petition and see that stuff. So think about this on a larger scale. Every of everybody that’s going through this handled says I can walk you through the paperwork. It’s not a lot of money. If you file it yourself. You don’t need an attorney, usually for a civil summons, but what This type of numbers, this amount of people, usually you can get like a class action. Usually you can get an attorney to handle this because this is strategic. This is more than one person this is this is over gang stalking this is this is over cyber, cyber, I can’t even talk. So I’m smoking weed, sorry. This is over cyber stalking and cyber abuse, like these are intentional. These are our attacks to take down people on this app that are gaining momentum with the truth, specifically the ones that want to organize a safe space for survivors, not ones that are calling out Daxing and talking smack about people. I don’t even talk about General Flynn dude on Spaces publicly. But as attorneys helping me privately in DMS, because he knows what I’m saying is true. You have to look at the common denominators. A lot of these people that have all these followers, they don’t have the support and the back channels. At the end of the day they run in their mouth publicly, people that are really trying to move forward, understand how this game is played. Because at the end of the day, it is effing game. You have to understand that and it’s hard to swallow when you realize that damn people don’t have the same integrity and ethics as you. That’s heartbreaking. But there are a lot of people that care. But you have to sift through that bullshit. And if you really genuinely want to make a difference, allowing spaces like that to continue promoting it. You don’t I mean, staying in there and listening. It’s even as good as it is because you want to get the evidence. It’s promoting that type of behavior. You don’t I mean, at the end of the day, we’re telling people that that’s okay. And then you see all these other men that are literally bade us that follow suit, calling women bitches and whores and telling them I hear it daily, bro. And I’m like, Man, you would not say that to my effing chest. I would pokey rug in your little fucking birchas man. I damn sure would. Because like the audacity Who the fuck raised you? Who the fuck raise you. You know what I mean? Like, you would not stand 10 toes down like that face to face. A lot of these people feel so comfortable on the internet dude. And then when you do those same tactics on you, because I’m smarter as fuck I can find you and I don’t share it. I keep it in case I gotta serve your ass. You know what I mean? So a lot of these people that talked about already know or know you, you know what I mean? And I don’t sit there and talk smack like that. Spongebob Squarepants video, I did it. I went to her Facebook page. I took them down photos. I didn’t post her family. I didn’t say her name. I put the SpongeBob SquarePants song on there and I called I said, You have said Christie crabs down in your Sandy cheeks down in your bikini bottom only Squidward Swan wants to put his tentacles near your Squarepants and there was nothing not her name. Not nothing. I put it private when I made it on Tik Tok. So no views no nothing, no shares. And then I posted it on this app for freakin 10 minutes. Right where I knew they would see it. They saw it they got a screenshot that didn’t even get to save it. And then I frickin deleted it. And then here they go telling everybody that Dr. Family that I’m attacking her that I posted her address that I shared her brother’s info. So you know what I reshard it. And then they want to sit there and play victim again that I’m ruining your life and I’m ruining her image. You know, it’s not my fault. You got Spongebob Squarepants dude, I can’t I mean, I wouldn’t even came at you like that. But you sit in here organizing all these people to do all this shit for you. And you want to sit there and claim victim like you don’t have your hands dirty. There’s so many sawed off groups on this app. There’s rape LARPers, dude, and people just allow it. I know how many times I report their comments and there’s this there’s that still stays up there. It pisses me off. But then sex bots can just have free roam.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 48:19
Oh my god, the porn, Bob’s bots are awful. But,

Speaker 2 48:22
and I feel like that’s intentional. Think about it, the all the posts that they are on or wants to suppress your numbers to keep you hidden to keep your views down.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 48:31
I was wondering what that was about. I’ve only gotten them a few times, luckily. But like, you know, this, this, these people are the I don’t even it’s like there are no words. There.

Speaker 2 48:44
I had to tell me today that they had their pages completely shut down for one for sending me a comment and one for sending me a DM and they sent me the screenshots where their pages, their accounts were literally locked for messaging me. And I thought that was insane.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 48:59
That’s, that’s not normal. That’s something you

Speaker 2 49:02
and I documented Amen. Because I’m gonna do it. I’m damn sure suing this app. And I’m trying to talk everybody else getting abused on this app to do the damn same because they’re not protecting people. They’re literally enabling it. We have hella scream recordings to prove it.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 49:18
Oh, my God, you know it. I didn’t even realize that this is been going on for this long. I don’t know, I just I usually would just stay out of shit, but then it’s just escalated.

Speaker 2 49:32
That’s because you’re gaining traction. That’s because people can’t sit there and Docs you to the way that they want to. They sit there and they try to push narratives and other directions with people that are small minded than lack the emotional capacity to research for themselves. They’ll take a screenshot here and there that that’s out of context without even going to the source and asking them direct question. You know, like an alpha would a lot of these men you know that I’m a man I’m a real boy bla bla bla bla bla, but they don’t ever go to a to b they go to C D The EAD s to G and you’re intolerant all these damn circles, they never go straight to the source never.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 50:06
Yep, I don’t think they want to. Oh, all state. I saw your your hand up. Sorry, I’m so bad at this. Very good.

Speaker 6 50:15
No, you’re good, I appreciate you for calling me up. Yeah, just wanted to say, when it comes to all this stuff, it becomes clearly obvious after some point in time that it’s all organized and strategically operated. When looking at trying to get to the source of what we’re trying to, you know, bust open, you have to get through the different layers and different even shells of consciousness that we’re looking through, right with Project MK Ultra specifically, you can be talking to one person who’s, you know, definitely helping you on your team and, you know, has a very beautiful heart is totally into it fully for the bigger picture. And then, you know, the next second somebody just walked by and whispered something, and now your friend is no completely working against you. So that’s one of the things that we have to look out for. And one of the things that we have to you know, work around and try to figure out, right is who, which one of me is the real me technically, right, which is my base character that will help us get to the you know, bigger bigger hubs of information for sure. Because of the coding that we are that we have been exposed to Cognizant lately, relaying that information is only going to do so much we have to be able to open to the full experience of the of the context of what’s happening

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 52:08
100%

Speaker 6 52:15
But yeah, fucking with people’s lives and shit is not goin Oh

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 52:20
yeah, no, not not at all. It’s the

Speaker 2 52:23
opposite for Jeff version, and I got the time and I got the emotional capacity most days and the font don’t, man, I got caffeine, I got marijuana, I’m gonna come at you. You’re not gonna get away with this.

Unknown Speaker 52:35
And besides that, you also have cortisol.

Speaker 2 52:38
Yeah, I have hell of that man, unfortunately, and I got hella adrenaline because I have overactive adrenal glands, and thyroid dysfunction from the dam trauma. So that’s the good thing is we can medically document the abuse the prolonged abuse from these type of experiments. It is it is able to be documented medically, because of the overactive adrenaline stuff that’s constantly pumping through survivors bodies we don’t get the serotonin and stuff like most people do.

Speaker 6 53:05
Right we specifically have to work extra hard to activate those neural pathways that find

Speaker 2 53:12
me off when they trigger us because you know, they have a fast bounce back rate where they can just bounce back five minutes later and they’re fine and here we are still shaken and aggravated and triggered you know, sometimes 2030 minutes sometimes hours later and they tell you to get over it stop being so dramatic and not realizing they’re literally like they’re messing with your body and they don’t understand you don’t understand what Broken heart syndrome is every time your heart literally rips

Speaker 6 53:41
it’s it’s horrible um, they literally do understand what they’re doing and that’s why they tell you the compound set effect right once you get told to calm down of course you’re not going to fucking calm down because there’s nothing to calm down about.

Speaker 2 53:58
I hear in my head is Knuck If You Buck my head every time someone come out of pocket

Speaker 6 54:05
get but get wild. When it when it comes to the bounce back rate though, we are still very capable. We are more capable than most it seems like in certain situations. However, they use specific key situations that trigger you know,

Speaker 2 54:24
they want to keep you in a state of hyper vigilance they want to keep you in a kind of a manic state because if they can get you that state or your constant and where you’re over processing, you’re not going to rationally think to where you can calculate and hit them back because god dammit can we hyperfocus we might be scatterbrained we might be a little big mouth we might be all over the place but bro we go find everything about you. We’re gonna find your mama your daddy, your sister, your ex girlfriend we got to find a man facts you know we get it all. So like they don’t want you to focus and they don’t want you to come together because when you come together, you put those pieces together. You can find out the comps and name and denominators who all messages same people the exact same verbatim messages. So you’d be surprised how many people come into your inbox and they send the same thing over and over and over again. And you get a group of survivors in a space and we send a screenshot. And they’d be like, Oh, my God, I got that same message. And then you get all of them and you like, pretty soon a pattern emerges. And that’s why they don’t want us coming together. Because we catch them on to their bullshit.

Speaker 6 55:21
Yeah, it’s hilarious project and culture was essentially designed to create the ultimate weapon, right. And they tried to every every method, they went through technology, they went through quantum mechanics, they went through UFOs, they went through the human body, they went through the human consciousness, they went through the human spirit. And they’re still trying to go deeper to find something better, that doesn’t turn against them. However, once they figure out that they keep on creating the perfect weapons, the perfect weapons, understand how to aim themselves.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 56:00
That’s like, exactly it’s like, but they don’t understand that they just can’t keep going and keep going to, like, you know, get some sort of result where we’re all devout zombies in the end, that are just, they’re just do whatever the hell they want. And it’s not like that. And, you know, I noticed the trigger words in that, that space, and I noticed the, the methods and you know, especially when he started talking about the, you know, one guy started talking about, oh, we know, women and women are just as bad women are violent women are that and it’s like, oh my god, like, I I can see it from a mile away. Like now you’re just trying to piss off all the women and you’re just trying to get them to go. No, it’s not. It’s not all women, putting them on the defensive, like trying.

Speaker 6 56:53
In particular, as a general they are more dangerous when it comes to information when it comes to what we’re talking about.

Speaker 2 57:02
Because I remember everything you said, you said this it you know, on August 7 1993 You were wearing an orange shirt with khakis and you know, tube socks, man, we know ridiculous information, but we can’t tell you what we had to eat yesterday.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 57:15
Accurate.

Speaker 2 57:19
Sorry, Jamie, you’re gonna have to probably go ahead because I don’t think stellar is looking at her phone, honey.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 57:24
Oh, thank you. I’m always distracted. I

Unknown Speaker 57:27
have I’ve cats. I got a big ass mouth too. I’ll

Unknown Speaker 57:30
be talking a lot. That’s okay. No problem.

Unknown Speaker 57:33
So I’m back to so

Speaker 7 57:38
am I coming through? Okay, can you guys hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. As some of you know, already, I know, stellar noses that I’m, you know, desperately in this age of all this stuff coming out. And, and all of you being so brave and coming forward and telling your stories, and me having a completely different area with which I’m a part of this, which is mostly through their video game wing, where I was, you know, acutely aware from when I was a young teenager, that they’d been using video games to, to grow, to groom people for whatever combat situations that they would kind of try and do in the 21st century. But what I found in my journey of being able to undo of the conditioning is that there’s a huge spiritual component that these people seem to be not grasping is that this is not their world to begin with. And it’s never going to be their world, they never created it. It is not going to be a realm with which they’re ever going to have full control over, no matter what they try, no matter how they tried to investigate and deep. Go try and get into the code of God’s creation. They have to understand at some point that God and the fundamental forces of the universe are always going to trump them. And we are a part of that process. So the more we come together, the more we coalesce, the more we organize. It’s all a part of the plan, which is to teach them that the entire thing was futile to begin with. Anyway, that’s all I want to say for now you guys can continue

Speaker 2 59:23
to give you guys something accurate. No, that’s true. I’ve gotten that message for years that would not be trying so effing hard. They they know this, they know at the end of the day, they cannot achieve their goal. Okay, so they’re grasping at straws. They’re trying to get us to undo ourselves. They want us pitted against each other. They want to they’re literally going to there’s going to be a domino effect. Okay, we ultimately are going to undo ourselves not not long term thing, but you know what I mean? It’s not going to be somebody else coming in and from the outside in, they might paint that narrative. But at the end of the day, it’s people scared people that are the real danger.

Speaker 5 1:00:00
Well, actually, they could win if they’re able to break everyone down and not band together. But the thing is, is they don’t realize that having conversations just like this is actually what strengthening the bond, which is what is going to bring everyone together, which is going to prevent them from winning.

Speaker 2 1:00:21
Yeah, I think too many seeds have been planted. There’s too many things that they did not want talked about that’s already been aired out that certain people are catching wind of and paying taking note. And it’s speeding up what their initial plan was, and they’re scrambling, they’re grasping at straws, trying to get all these different distractions, so that we hone in on this and we don’t focus on what we really need to, the more that they push us is the more time we need to push back. That’s when we need to focus. Okay, well, what were we talking about? Before all this bullshit came up around, you got to start taking notes, writing down noticing the patterns, because man, once you start taking notes, you’ll see it’s the same narrative over and over and over again, just different faces. It’s literally verbatim.

Speaker 7 1:01:05
Yeah. And they’re not taking into account as well, unless they do know already. And they don’t tell us but I’ve discovered this is that our perceptions of our own personal reality, wherever we are in the world, is also creative on our part. So when I’ve been, I’ve been on a journey with God for like six months, and I’m not going to get too much into God, because I mean, it’s such a loaded word. And I’m not going to get into the dogma of God. But what I found in my environment is that, as I think things, as I feel things, the environment is showing me things that says, Yeah, I hear you. And when people realize that the environment talks to them, and interacts with them as an organism as an extension of themselves, they will no longer be able to do any of this because everyone’s fears will be gone. That is such an organic experience. For me.

Speaker 6 1:02:08
The universe is a communication and communicating with itself.

Speaker 7 1:02:12
Yeah. Yeah. And they don’t tell us they don’t tell the masses about that, obviously, for and, you know, that’s also going to start slowly coming to light more as people start actually investigating in their environment and get off their phones.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:30
Quantum contract law.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:33
Yeah, it’s all quantum physics and quantum mechanics.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:44
Hey, Emma, are you there?

Emma Pietrzak 1:02:56
I think they went to bed. Oh, wow. You guys are so sweet for doing the space. Thank you, Katie for just being such an awesome advocate for advocates. And just for standing up for people in the community. It’s really awesome. This is what we need is like coming together, like, the more that all of us get attention in any type of way, whether it’s you guys whistleblowing your stories, or me helping, there’s going to be people like the this is just going to keep escalating. They’re going to be targeted. What’s the word, I’m looking for assaults and attacks to break up what we’re building. That’s what’s happened all throughout history. And it’s worked. That’s why this is still happening. Because the division always happens. It works. And then the public believes it. Because all they see is the chaos and they hear what people say as far as the rumors that they’re spreading, and the discrediting that people do to you guys, you know, and so like the best thing that we can all do is the opposite. And do exactly what people like Katie are doing, which is sharing each other’s posts, elevating each other and jumping into stand up for one another. because not a lot of people are going to like people don’t have the courage to talk about this stuff. And people don’t have the courage to stand up and say no, whenever they see people bullying, like, it’s crazy to me, whether it’s on my posts, or if I go on Katie’s posts, if I go on any of your posts, and like there’s people in the comments that are bullying you and nobody says anything, and there’s your posts are being shared, you know, 10s if not hundreds of times, some of your posts go really far whenever you post them. And it’s amazing to me that people don’t stand up and say, Wait, this is fucked up. Why is somebody bullying a survivor? Why is somebody bullying a woman like she’s talking about her childhood experiences? Why is somebody bullying this person? You know, we have to all stand together and do what they’re not going to do which is stand up for each other come together and get this information out together, you know, like, we’re not going to have a lot of help with this unless we demand it. And if we come together and we’re loud enough, then

Speaker 6 1:05:10
what’s not? Me I cut in right here? Thank you, I just want to, you have a lot of great things to say I wanted to correct a viewpoint that you started off with, when it comes to the strategic efforts against finding the truth, I’ve been working for a long time, I would like to recall that as false. So I would say about the last 200 300 years have been about redefining a narrative that pushes that that specific goal, right, creating a language culture propagation system that enforces its own vision. So like they haven’t always worked with just let it be seen as, yeah, it’s getting more obvious. They’ve had to grow. So we could identify them better and pull them out like a weed. It’s kind of simple.

Emma Pietrzak 1:06:23
Okay, but we’re the ones doing this and experiencing it. And I’m, I’m experiencing exactly what I’m saying myself. So I don’t know. I’m just saying, I appreciate your standpoint, but like, let people talk because my experience is different than yours. I’m out here actually talking to people and like putting my voice out there. And like, I know what’s happening to me, and I see it happening to other people. So I do appreciate what you’re saying, but you’re not speaking on behalf of me, I am trying to tell my story for me out there and trying to tell Katie’s story, trying to tell all these survivor stories in here, and you’re not me or them. And so I just want to just ask your respect to like, let us have a voice. Because that’s exactly what’s happening is everybody’s taking it away from us.

Speaker 6 1:07:12
Definitely. And I’m helping you speak your voice a little bit better by helping you relearn the language to say that. It hasn’t always been. We haven’t been losing the whole time. We’ve actually been winning. And it feels like it’s losing, right? Because there’s a

Emma Pietrzak 1:07:31
we’re winning by coming together and not letting people divide us. I’m saying that in the past, this hasn’t stopped. It’s still happening. Children are still going through this today. Because people didn’t stand up, come together and put a stop to it. That is what we’re trying to do. We are going to be the generation that stops this. We’re the ones coming together and doing what no other generation has. And it’s still happening. So as much as we want to say, we’re winning like it’s still happening today. And so we are farther along than we’ve ever been. But we have to come together and do what hasn’t been done in the past, which is coming together and standing up for one another sharing each other’s stories, not putting up with bullies. And being a cohesive unit instead of letting people trample all over us, which is what’s what they’re trying to do. There’s concerted efforts and attacks against people like me and Katie, and it’s very crystal clear that there is concerted attacks and people actually coming together to tear apart what we’re building. And it has worked in the past where this has been torn apart. And even though I’m not saying that those voices didn’t matter. There’s been some incredibly powerful voices like we wouldn’t be where we are today without those people. But unfortunately, there wasn’t enough people. There wasn’t enough people that had the courage to come stand up next to the Cathy O’Brien’s. And next to the Cheryl backs that have been screaming this for decades. People didn’t come up and stand by them, they let them be bullies, they let this continue. And so what I’m saying is we have to do the opposite. And stay together as a unit. We can’t let things break us up. And we have to stand up for one another. And we have to bring truth to what is happening currently to children’s still today that has been going on for far too long for decades and decades.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:12
Can I can I address the bullying for a second?

Emma Pietrzak 1:09:18
Are you being bullied? Can we start there? Like what? You I haven’t seen much of what you’ve done like as far as like helping this movement. I know you’re talking to me helping but like are you being bullied because it feels like you’re trying to talk on behalf of us and over me. And you’re trying to talk about my experiences and they’re not your experiences?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:40
Are you talking? Are you addressing me right now?

Emma Pietrzak 1:09:45
I’m talking to who is talking?

Unknown Speaker 1:09:48
Oh, gee,

Speaker 6 1:09:49
won’t be me. Then. There’ll be me then. So yeah, I was just calling out that’s we have to have a large enough mass to identify The parasite group to pull it out. I wasn’t discrediting you, I wasn’t, you know, saying that you your experience was wrong. I was just saying, we have different perspectives as well, that say there’s a bigger story to all of this. And it’s, you know, a lot cooler than how it feels. Sometimes.

Emma Pietrzak 1:10:21
I understand that. But are you being bullied? Are you putting yourself out there and getting bullied like we are because we are getting bullied? That’s exactly what’s happening. It’s not just me. Are you experiencing that? In order to talk about it?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:39
Not publicly No.

Emma Pietrzak 1:10:40
Okay, so I don’t know how you’re trying to correct me on what I’m experiencing. If you’re not putting yourself out there, like we are to experience what we are.

Speaker 6 1:10:53
Well, so the thing is, you really got to be careful about who you’re talking about, right? When it comes to what people experience. In this particular field, we have a specific section where a lot of people don’t remember what they experience.

Emma Pietrzak 1:11:13
I’m talking about right now, today, I’m talking about today.

Speaker 7 1:11:18
Yeah, so I think what she’s saying is that her particular experience is a completely personal everyone’s perspective and their experiences or in our personal, she’s drilling down to her experience, specifically, you pulling out to try and get to a bigger view, to try and encompass a whole bunch of other survivors, when she’s just trying to talk about the people themselves, who are concerned about their own voice being heard. The entire pull out to the entire group is not the concern right now. And it’s not a discussion that we need to have. When you say stuff like we’re not trying to get to the

Unknown Speaker 1:11:53
bottom into the root of this.

Speaker 8 1:11:56
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on as bad form. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. Okay, as bad form, when you’ve got women that were being threatened by the cartels around the world, it’s bad form, to speak over them when they’re in the flow, because a lot of these people will come from a longer form kind of culture. So when you speak over them and makes them think, are you one of these people? Does it work? For me? That was like my first impression. So when we suppose that people got weird feelings about you, when you talk over women, or, like, I miss angling for a

Speaker 6 1:12:25
lot of stuff, so just just want to be drowned out by your voice? No, but

Speaker 8 1:12:29
you can speak but just like, Wait, your turn, and then no one wants to be interrupted halfway with a completely different intellectual discussion about that. Do you know do you know? Do you know? You know, logical taxonomies, you know, descriptions of sarin persona, you know, timeframes of the big picture? Well, it’s just a lady talking about her stuff. Just Just wait your turn moment. Sure. Yeah, exactly.

Emma Pietrzak 1:12:52
Thank you, that was exactly what I was trying to say. But I just I appreciate all of you. I know the people in this room have been incredible advocates, you guys have come through and like whenever you guys see something wrong, you stand up and put your foot down to it. And you stand up for yourselves, which is incredible. Like I love seeing the confidence of a lot of you. I know it’s not easy. We’re literally in a war. It’s like a battlefield out there. And you guys are taking charge and taking your power back. And not letting people steal it from you. And it’s beautiful. This is this is stuff that it’s it’s historical, what’s happening right now, more and more people are getting courage to speak out because of all of you have the courage. I don’t know if you guys have looked at Katie’s page, stellar Fox, she’s been disclosing some extremely personal things that she’s never shared before. And it’s getting shared around like people are caring, and she’s being vulnerable. And I know, she’s not the only one in the room doing that. And because of that, when that gets circulated, and other survivors sees that, they don’t feel alone, and they feel the courage to speak out. And that’s something that a lot of people historically have not had the courage to do. And it’s not because they didn’t want to and a lot of times it’s because they couldn’t. But I mean, you look back decades ago, and like how crazy that somebody like Cathy O’Brien was like the only one in her time speaking up about this that she like, went up against everybody. And people didn’t stand up for her like how they do today. And she even says that. I’ve asked her on my interviews, and I’m not the only one who’s asked her. But she’s even been like, wow, like right now is a really amazing time. You know, people are standing up more and more, and people are coming forward because more people are coming forward. You know. So it’s like we have a really important role like we were playing this ripple effect where we think that we’re just this one drop in the ocean, but we’re not like we’re a drop that ripples out and it ripples out and it eventually reaches somebody and then they drop and it ripples out and reaches other people. And it’s beautiful and like you guys are doing that. You know you guys Those are the ones that are championing that and doing that, and then you’re coming together and supporting each other, which is freaking cool. You know. So like this is, I feel like this is how we win, you know, of course, we have to stand up for ourselves, of course, we have to stand up for each other. And it’s not always going to be pretty what we say. And what we do isn’t always going to be pretty. And it’s not supposed to be like we’re literally in a war. But when people see us supporting each other, and validating each other and sharing each other’s content, and lifting each other up, that is what the people opposing us aren’t going to do. Like the people that are attacking us are no different than people in the cult, like their only bond together is through trauma, like they’re traumatized, they’re reacting out of trauma, and they’re bonding because of it, they don’t trust each other, they don’t have the same like they’re not uplifting each other, if you go look at their pages, the only content that they put out is content to tear people down. That doesn’t get people far. But it works. A lot of times where it does break people down where they go back into silence, or they sort of disband people that have come together and turn them against each other. And like none of us are letting that happen. And that’s where we’re that’s where our strength is. And that’s where we have to keep strong is by validating each other and being there for each other and like standing up to this as a unit and saying, You’re not going to break me, I don’t care how much you guys come after us. I don’t care what rumors you guys start, I don’t care what gossip you do. Like, we’re gonna lift each other up, we’re going to come together, and we’re gonna do something great together. And it’s built off of love, and trust, and uplifting and positivity and validation, and crediting each other and tagging each other and like giving, giving credit to people’s work, instead of stealing it like a lot of these big accounts deal. Like that drives me crazy. There’s big stories that happen and somebody will with a large amount of followers will post the story and they won’t tag or even mentioned the survivor, they’ll just share the gossip that they want credit for, that they want likes for and follows for. And we aren’t doing that we’re, we’re giving each other a platform. And this is how we’re gonna go far. And this is why I fight so hard for this and like, why I believe in all of you so much, because I see that I see you guys doing things that nobody else has, I believe in all of you, you guys are absolutely fucking amazing what you guys have been able to do even just the people in this room, that you guys have been able to find the courage to share these extremely vulnerable moments in your life, in order to make a difference to the person on the other side of the screen. And in order to affect one person who you probably don’t even you guys probably don’t even know all the people now that have found the courage to go talk about their abuse, because they don’t feel alone anymore, because you guys have stood up for them without even knowing it. You know? And like, that’s where we have to realize our voices are bigger than just us. Yes, you guys get to share and are sharing parts of your story. But you guys are affecting the person on the other side of the screen, who is now going to go do the same thing. And then it’s going to be a report. And I can’t tell you guys just even in like the short time that I’ve been doing this, I used to get I used to have to like go out and not beg people to do a podcast. But I would have to go ask them and sort of like

Emma Pietrzak 1:18:17
ask them in a way that that made them want to like, share their story. Because people when I first started this were like, wait, you want me to come on a podcast and share this. Like I just, I’ve just kind of like made a post online, you know, and now I’m getting so many emails of people wanting to share. And it’s because of you I can’t tell you like the emails that I get are because Katie spoke up and I was inspired Grace spoke up and I was inspired. Casey sunshine spoke up and I was inspired like people are getting inspired because of you were years ago, they couldn’t find people. And it was like so scary for them. They didn’t have an inspiration of like, why they should stand up and talk. And so a lot of people weren’t, and you guys are creating that momentum and that way for that, but it’s not going to come without an escalation of attacks, there will be people that are going to come out and they’re not going to be happy, whether it’s through programming and their trauma, or if it’s actual people who who aren’t involved at all, who thinks that they know better than us, or they believe in a political agenda or a specific religion, and they’re offended by whatever it is that we say, you know, like I always say, the only sides and an agenda. And the only parties that I believe in is child protectors versus child predators. That’s it. And I think if people can’t put aside their beliefs and come together for that and say, Okay, well if that’s what it is, like, I know what side I’m on. I’m on the side of child protectors, like no fucking joke. You know, if people can’t do that, then they’re showing us where they’re at. And that’s what we have to hold people accountable for. You know, there’s journalists and big accounts that like won’t share any of this stuff they want Talk about any of this stuff, but they’re like the quickest ones to go attack people who do, you know, and then they’re the ones making money off of your stories, they’re talking over you and being gatekeepers, so people don’t find you. And it’s bullshit. It’s absolute bullshit, and I’m tired of it, I’m sure all you guys are tired of it. But if we come together, and we’re, we’re sort of taking on the responsibility of being the mainstream media and putting out information together and sharing, we can start to overcome this and do exactly the model that has worked for them with mainstream media, which is all these channels getting together and putting out the same fucking shit. You know, that’s the reason why people believe what they do is because they see it everywhere. And we have the power to change that now, with social media, we can now share each other’s stories. And we can share each other’s posts and tag each other and show people and direct them where to go together. You know, and so I know that I’m ranting, I’m, I’m so proud of you guys. And like, could speak forever about this. But like I’m, it really touches my heart that you guys would make a space and like, try to help us and stand up for us. But also, I know that in turn, like you’re standing up for yourselves by doing that, you know, because you see that this is a community, it’s not just me, it’s not just you, it’s not just this person or that person, like you guys are standing up for all of the community. And it’s, it’s wonderful. It’s incredible. And I think that momentum is just going to keep building. But I’m just like, I’m really proud of what we’re doing. And I know that it’s gonna come with more attacks. I also always say like, I’d rather take arrows in my back than any of you, you guys have had enough in your back, like, I’m more than happy to, like, take some of that from you, you know, but at the same time, I really appreciate when people do attack me or any of you that, that you guys all come up and stand up, you know, and when we have courage and just like how when you guys share your stories, when people also see people having courage to stand up for women to stand up for people bullying survivors, you know, it gives them the courage to stand up. It’s really sad that like, we have to build that courage up and people what we do, we have to show people and set that example and be like, Yo, that’s not fucking cool. You’re talking, you’re talking shit on women. You’re talking shit on survivors, you’re talking shit on advocates? Like that’s not fucking cool. You know? Like, why are you doing that? And it’ll get people to look at what that person’s doing and be like, Wait, why is that that is a survivor, like, why are they talking shit on them, you know, and so you guys are sort of helping to share how to change things through your example. And there’s not a replacement for that, you know, your examples on sharing your stories on standing up for each other on sharing each other’s content. And on on just standing up to bullies. It’s going to teach people and show them and they might not react right away, but like people can’t, you know, it’s just like, when you see a hero, like, even if it’s just in a movie, when people see somebody doing something heroic, it sticks with them. And it gives them like a confidence for a minute and makes them feel powerful, you know, when it makes them think about their own actions and reflect, you know, so like, we’re gonna change the world, one person at a time, and it’s gonna be a rough road. But, you know, it’s through our examples, and like rising above this and standing up for each other, not putting up with shit, but also leaving as a community and like, with love, and with uplifting each other and standing up for each other, you know, this is how we start to make a dent in this and how we start to make a change is by being better than, than what’s, what’s going to come and attack us and what has been attacking us. So I just, I really love you guys. And like hope you know that we’re always here. Like, all of us in this room, no matter who you are, like we have your back, you know, and I always have all of your backs, I will fucking die for any of you, I will die for this cause like it’ll be the hill that I die on. And I’m proud of that. I’m proud of all of you and I’m proud and honored to stand next to all of you because there’s nobody in the fucking world that is more of a warrior and stronger than than survivors. You know, and I stand by that with all my heart and you know, anything that I can do for any of you I want you know, I’m always here and I’m always fucking cheering you on and like, anytime I can step in and help anytime great can like we’re always here for you guys. You know and I know that that stands for a lot of you in this room that you guys would do the same so just thank you guys for everything and just for being awesome and like for building something that hasn’t historically been created before you know and for being all in on it. I really believe in what we’re doing and think that this community can can make some major moves and progress that’s never been done before. So I just love all of you guys

Speaker 7 1:24:48
can I jump in on the bullying for a second? Can you guys hear me okay?

Unknown Speaker 1:24:57
I can hear you just fine.

Speaker 7 1:24:58
Okay, thank you Sorry, I wasn’t sure because my screen isn’t showing my little things saying whether or not I’m talking. So I had an idea for a tactic in terms of us being able to tackle the bullying. And it’s very easy sentences that we could all use. But it’s very important that we all employ this together. So whenever a bully or a bunch of bullies start attacking survivors, my recommendation is is a very worthwhile tactic is simply the a bunch of us or the individual survivors simply saying the following? Is there anything else you want to say? Is there anything else you want to add? You actually ask the believers? Is there anything that you want to add? Is there anything else you want to say? Okay, and then if they do you let them if they don’t? First of all, they’re going to be totally confused that you’re even asking, because they’re expecting an attack back. So you say, Hey, do you have any other feedback, no. And then you just say thank you for your feedback. And if all of us just keep becoming a fricking, broken record, saying thank you for your feedback, thank you for your feedback, thank you for your feedback, it neutralizes their entire argument. Because they’re not getting the validation they want. They’re not getting any type of negative response, which they feed off of. And it leaves them completely confused on how to move forward. They can’t move a chess game with which you’re just thanking them for showing up. So I would recommend if we can go at this and say, Hey, thank you for your feedback in a big group of just, you know, is just using these words as a broken record, I guarantee there’ll be a point. I’m hoping that if we could be that loud with that kind of neutral response that they’ll just shut up.

Speaker 9 1:26:46
Hey, can I talk? It’s Brad. You Yeah, I’m done. Hey, hey, Emma, and everyone. I think this is awesome. I think what you said Emma, really captured it perfectly. To be honest, that last thing kind of made, I was feeling like cognitive dissonance after hearing what Jim was saying, with that. So I just wanted to I wanted to talk about a really limited thing that I think is important. Sometimes ima tweets, something to the effect of, I built the biggest MK Ultra survivor testimony library in the world. And that’s a fact. And it’s not even close. And it includes people like Cathy O’Brien, and Megan Walsh, and stellar Fox, and Caitlin and many, many people, including me when she interviewed me once. And that’s huge. And it’s huge in a different way that whistleblowers like Cathy O’Brien, and even Megan Walsh, what they’ve contributed, because she’s someone who’s not really a survivor, at least not in the same way of some of the people she interviews. But she’s kind of brought it all together in a way that I think survivors themselves maybe couldn’t or hadn’t at least been able to, to date. So the first thing I wanted to do is just kind of point out how massive that achievement is. And if she’s done it with humility, which I think is the only way did it could have been done. The other thing, and then this, this is what I wanted to add, is that what that means is it’s a big, big problem for some very powerful people that stand to lose a whole lot when the truth is known as we’re talking about on one side, supporting each other and standing up for one another. And that’s all exactly right. But what that means to the people we oppose is that it’s a danger. So when Cathy O’Brien was speaking by herself, she posed a problem but not but it was a different one and not not necessarily a big one to the extent that she can be marginalized. And for you know, the vast majority of the people be made to see if she was even heard. People will question whether, you know whether that was true. Whether that was you know, these just so incredible, and it’s not so incredible when other people are confirming invalidating stories. And so we’ve moved very far in. And I think Emma deserves a lot of credit for that. As to all of the people that she’s interviewed. So then, and then the last thing I wanted to say is, because that’s true, or if you’re with me so far, that means that a really big goal for enemies of what we’re doing, people who stand to lose a lot will be to upset her work. And so even something like this, I think I looked, there were 60, some people talking, even just in a group like this, it’ll be infiltrated by someone by some people, because they’ll want to cast out. And I think that’s part of what’s happening with anima. So I just want people to be aware of that, you know, to be thinking of the big picture. And that was, that was pretty much what I wanted to say. So I hope I hope that was helpful.

Speaker 10 1:31:09
Your mind if I hop on here just for a second and say some? Go for it. I appreciate you. Yeah, this is great speaking, just observing

Speaker 11 1:31:20
hands anymore, or what is the protocol here?

Unknown Speaker 1:31:27
And you’re coming up next.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:31:29
I’m so sorry. I’m so bad at chugging.

Speaker 1 1:31:34
Yeah, I’ve been trying to help as much as I can. I do want greatest speak because we, this is this whole based was like about mn Gray, you know, but I’m gonna have to do it this way. We’re gonna have gray speak for JP, I appreciate that. You’ve been patient, we’re gonna have you next after gray. And then John will do us third. Okay.

Speaker 10 1:32:03
I appreciate y’all. I just wanted to take a second to address things, you know, give what I feel is my helpful advice. And we’ll also to start by apologizing if I upset anybody earlier, blowing up on that spaces. I’m just gonna go straight into basically explaining my viewpoint and everything here and get right to it to take up as little time as possible. It was very clear before I went into that spaces that it was walking into a setup, there had already been a repeat history of them setting up survivors in situations that I was aware of, including with Angelo Maggard, who had notified me, just by the way they had set it up and how I had talked to a reptile behind the scenes, I could tell it was that they were going to play games with a mic and so on and so forth. I’m wasn’t going to, you know, let them play around too much. I took the decision to just completely unload and cussed them out as long as I could, you know, does it look childish and stupid? Does it shine me and, unfortunately, possibly people around me in a bad light? There is an aspect of that, and I apologize for that. You know, there’s been some pretty horrid stuff that he’s been saying, and they’ve been doing to people, you know, so if it was do nothing, or just cuss him out, you know, I’m the type of guy where that’s where I went with it. It’s definitely not perfect, not very effective. My thing is doing work in the background, behind the scenes. And I can tell you that there’s a lot going on right now. Okay, and some of its spilling onto online, but a lot of it’s behind the scenes, and there’s major progress going on. Now, when I came online, part of it was to address literal satanic infiltration stemming from they the Satanic Temple. Doug Misako, is his actual name, also known as you know, Doug Messner, Lucien Greaves, a co founder of the Satanic Temple, also of gray faction. Now, they had infiltrated survivor conferences and created a lot of problems and attacked good therapists and ladies, and, you know, these satanic people are leaving dead animals on their doorsteps and so on and so forth. Now, has there ever been infiltration in the therapeutic community, of course, but this was a book shot spread of false memory syndrome attacks on everybody. Now, they had launched, you know, several seeded several groups stemming from that into the survivor community, okay, and those exists today and have been grown and they’re linked up. Some of them, you know, have fake ministries. Some of them you know, are overtly benign satanic, some of them you know, have nothing to do with Satan at all and you know, or just have a different Ace, they have seeded several groups of all shapes and sizes, some are more into spiritual aspects, some are more into reptilian stuff, some of them are straight Illuminati, you understand, they have just done any and everything. So the long story short is the, the main way that I see survivors can combat this. And we can, you know, really do the best for ourselves is to maintain a healthy community with reasonable and sensible standards, there will always be infiltration. So as long as we’re not looking to people, and we’re looking to like common sense and critical thinking, we can just make sure we’re taking safe sensible actions. Now, you can see people that are acting weird. And as survivors, a lot of us really, like want to find good, and people want to give people a chance. But if someone’s acting really weird, and it’s not making sense, you know, they could be playing psychological games, that is the MO of the enemy to play these games. So if people are acting in bad faith, the healthy community needs to make the community aware, we’re not just throwing around accusations we’re making everybody aware, and we’re addressing this looking and seeing and it becomes obvious. And then we don’t feed the groups or the people doing that, we just simply don’t feed them, we don’t give them any attention. There’s nothing to engage about, you know, I’m not the example for that. But the thing is, they can only exist if they’re being fed. So if you see a group or parties that just are acting weird, just aren’t making sense, you know, or promoting something seemed to have like a really bad blind spot, don’t get me wrong, take good faith, you know, attempts to educate them or so on and so forth. But if it’s just if the dots aren’t connecting, it’s not making sense, they might be playing with you, you know, and at this point, bots are very sophisticated. It could be, you know, undercover infiltrators, if someone’s not acting sensible, you know, we only have so much time and you can only put yourself out there so much, you know, and then once we find out, we maintain our healthy community, and let people know, we see it for ourselves, and then we all know, to stay away from that group of people, that person, so on and so forth. You know, that’s about it. So, anyways, I appreciate y’all. Um, you know, I’m going to be trying to focus more behind the scenes, like I’m doing and doing videos and stuff like that. But y’all see what I do. I mean, I go around, and I call out people that I know, are infiltration that I know are this and you know, I’m definitely rough around the edges. So I apologize for any collateral damage that I do, cause but I am cleaning a lot up. So anyways, I appreciate you know, everybody supporting and, and just the community in general. So appreciate you. And good luck.

Unknown Speaker 1:37:49
We love you gray.

Unknown Speaker 1:37:55
Okay, JP can go.

Speaker 11 1:37:59
Okay, thanks. First, I wanted to say I fully endorse the project, and the work that Emma has been putting in, I think it’s almost singular, because there were very few people addressing this topic. And I just want to say, without trying to be long winded about this, or being long winded about this, I grew up in a extremely Catholic environment. And I was aware of this problem from a fairly early age, because you know, what, I think most of us were all of us here know, what has been happening in the Catholic Church. And, you know, I don’t have to go and go into any gory details. But, you know, it makes me wonder what kind of world we’re living in. Because when I look at the southern border, and, you know, it’s old data now that 85,000 Kids, we know this is true, or we can probably bank on it reasonably, because of Tara Rhodos, and Michael Ariano, who were ex HHS and blew the whistle on these kids and what’s happening to them. And, you know, when you think about the war in Ukraine, and how 80,000 Plus kids and again, that’s old data to this is at least a year old, if not more 80,000 Kids are missing her, you know, and it made me just wonder about the whole Iraqi invasion. And, you know, when ISIS was marching in and displacing whole towns and villages and you know, these are not nice people, obviously, but what they do to young girls is that It’s kind of beyond the pale, and nobody’s reporting this, whether it’s Ukraine, or Iraq, at the southern border. And in the Catholic Church, you know, I think the very fact that the Catholic Church is still viable in today’s world. It’s just kind of mind blowing to me, because again, I’m an old guy, I’m in my 60s already. I grew up on the east side of Los Angeles, which is all Latino, all Catholic, all of my girlfriend’s all of my homeboys back in the day, we’re all Catholic. And, you know, it just, it makes me wonder now, as an adult, what kind of world we’re living in, you know, there’s this concept of wrestling, you know, I’m talking about pro wrestling, the kind that’s on TV, you know, with Ric Flair, and Hulk Hogan and all those guys, there’s this concept called K fade. And for those who don’t know, K fade is a term within wrestling, that is used to denote the amount of de extent to which wrestling to the public is an act. It’s like a theater production, right? It’s all scripted. It’s all worked out. All these guys know each other, you know, even though they may pretend to be a villain and one guy pretend you know, it’s called a face. You know, one guy said, villain, one guy’s a good guy. But they all go out and get drinks afterwards. And so, you know, there’s this concept that has been around for a long time. And it makes me wonder is like, are we, in a world that is operating on kind of the basic principles of kayfabe, where a lot of this knowledge is known. We know about the Vatican church, we have been knowing about what they’ve been doing. And yet, nobody in Congress lobbies to have any of these parishes or any of these priests investigated, let alone prosecuted. It’s kind of mind blowing when you think about it, because it’s been going on for who knows how long now? At least half a century, by my estimation. So the problem, I guess what I’m trying to say is the problem is a lot more deep rooted than we think. Now, on the other side of the coin, there are people like Emma, there are people like Cathy O’Brien, for sure. There are people like David Icke, who has been speaking about this problem for well over 20 years, at least by my estimation. I mean, I think it was David IKU. First, when I heard him as a young man or a younger man, I should say. He said at the highest levels of government, religion, and entertainment. There are large satanic pedophile rings that operate and they all intertwine and work with one another. And I was thinking to myself at the time, okay, I know about the Catholic Church, but government entertainment. And over the years, what we have found out is, I can it’s been proven right? Jimmy Savile? In England, Corey Feldman blew the whistle on Hollywood, Dennis Hastert was the house speaker, he got busted. don’t hear much from Uncle Danny anymore. This was the third most powerful man in the United States and therefore the world at the time, and he was a pedophile. So, you know, I guess what I’m leading up to and I’ll wrap up here is that I think we have enough data via the work of Emma, via the whistleblowing that people like Tara Rodas Michael Ariano. Okay, so now, what do we do and the thing that I always come back to this, if you do not have an inner compass, a North Star that divides right from wrong and that, you know, I’m oversimplifying here, but who is not afraid to speak about this even you know, look, I’ve spoken about this to my friends who are Catholic. I don’t attack them. I don’t, I don’t put it forth. I was like, you know, Hey, kill. This is Gotcha. I’m gonna get you on this. That’s not the way to go about it. I think obviously, but the ways to broach the subject in a civil manner, in a calm and rational manner and say if you can pass this message along to others you may know, and particularly other Catholics. And for me, in my own very minuscule, small way, that’s kind of the path I’ve taken. And I’ll wrap there.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:45:25
You know, and I really, I just wanted to hop in real quick and respond, because I wanted to say, you know, it’s a really good point that it’s, you know, there’s been lots of things and all these different groups where it occurs, you know, in the Catholic Church, the VAT, you know, but the Vatican and everything and all the different religions involved in it, because it is it’s everything, and entertainment business and the government. And whenever I personally refer to the network, I mean, that’s kind of what I am referring to, it’s all of it encompassed. The only real world word that would work would be, you know, the network. And if the, if everyone in whatever groups they’re affiliated with would kind of start those conversations, I think that would be awesome. And because, you know, it’s, it’s difficult, you can’t just attack one. And I’m not saying you’re suggesting that at all, I’m just saying, like, in general, saying, it’s this organization, or it’s this religion, or it’s this political thing, or it’s, you know, in another country, or what, whatever it may be, it’s taking focus off of all of the pedophiles and all the other groups. So, in just giving them a cover, and that’s kind of the move that they’ve, they’ve always made is, you know, when one group keeps getting looked at for a while, it’s no, no, it’s not us. It’s them, but it’s them. They’re the Evil Ones, look at what they’re doing. This is what they want to do. Let us tell you what they want to do. And it’s just a huge thing. And and yeah, I just wanted to share that, because that made me think of all those things. Sorry, Casey, you can definitely go no,

Speaker 12 1:47:29
no problem that you make a good point. And I just want to point something out, because for 29 years, I’ve been providing free support to survivors. And we were sequestered, we were like over on the sidelines, everybody told us that nobody wants to hear about anybody who’s been molested or raped. And my own family was like, oh, you know, really don’t bring that up. Don’t tell people what you do. You know, it’s just it. Nobody wants to hear about it. But it’s so widespread. So when I first so what I’m saying is that it’s time for us to celebrate, it’s time for us to celebrate because we are here we’re at, we’re on a platform right now that even though I they won’t allow me to host a space, and it is censored and all of that we are in this place, where a beautiful soul like Emma can actually bring people forward because in 29 years, I have not been able to like most of my survivors have a hard enough time, I’ve lost count of the number of times that people have said, Casey, I’m going to tell you something, I’ve never pulled another soul. I’ve been married for 39 years, and my husband doesn’t even know this, you know, was said to me recently. So the fact that everyone has been suffering in silence alone, and they’ve had all of these memories socked away in these different di D situations and so forth. We’ve kind we finally arrived. So we need to we really need to celebrate. And so when we get attacked, and the and by the way, that gray that that five hour information video that you did, you know, I looked at it was like five hours. Oh my god, I broken into two days. And I was so freaking fascinated. Thank you so much. Because it’s like validation everywhere I go. So when I was a little kid and I was molested by Dean Martin, and my mom was being funneled by Frank Sinatra and I was like, man, that guy’s too old for my mom used to get the fuck away from my mom. And I was seeing all this wicked shit as a kid and nobody believed me. They’re like, Oh, you know, she just she lies about she just makes shit up. And I’m like, I’m 59 years old now. And I’m like, I’m still telling the same story over and over again. But here I am. You know, my uncle raped his own granddaughter, and then he confessed and so finally my family’s like, oh my god, Casey was right. He really is up Got a file, it really did happen. Everything that I said at the about how he got raped in his church, that Satan is running the planet, we have to celebrate that we’re at a place where we can actually say this. We can say this for 29 years I have had I’ve had survivors, we huddled together and and just barely survived the storm because there’s nobody that we can talk to even their therapist will tell them. Oh my god, yeah, like, oh, well, let’s help you with this. And let’s try to get you into, you know, some meditation or this or that, but they don’t really believe us. But now, so when I came on to Twitter, and I was like, You guys need to understand satanic satanic Hollywood. I was trafficked through the Freemason Lodges all throughout my childhood, I was brought, I was a mafia goddaughter. And the only time of my childhood that I was not being molested. And rape was when I had the protection of my Italian mafia family, who obviously was competing with the satanic government that had already taken over Italy. You know, the Vatican baby. So what I’m saying is that now that we all know that it’s these 12 secret societies with the Vatican at the head, that the whole construct is Luciferian is not just Hollywood. It’s not just the government just like George Carlin said he was my my brother’s best friend and my brother’s still worship, Satan is off like five boosts, five boosters up, and his brain has melted. So we are at a place now where we can talk. So I would encourage everyone to swap information, share telephone numbers, share email addresses have these connections, because they’ve they have cut me off from so many survivors by censoring me on every platform and trying to give everybody anonymity, so I’m not keeping track of them. And they’re not all paranoid. But these people are now coming forward. And they’re going on Emma’s platform, and they’re showing, they’re telling their stories. Some of them don’t show their faces. I did, but some of them camp. And Rick for fear of what’s going to happen to them. So what we have now is the truth is out, and we need to roll with it. So when you see someone like Stephen Kelly, and reptile and Kumar, playing right into their hand, then we have to all understand that these people at these levels, they’re all corrupt, they are all corrupt. Don’t pay for one second that there’s a clean win if they’ve been in it for 20 years. They’re swimming in toxic soup for 20 years. They are not clean. I’m just going to tell you, people say oh, you know, Casey, tell me I’m like all is the middle management and below the people that are in there, just like the Freemason families, they have no fucking idea what happens at the after, after parties. So we need to celebrate now we finally have the ability to connect with each other, but it can be taken from any one of us like that. They can just pop us right off this platform. And then we’re alone again, and we don’t have each other. So let’s swap information. Let’s support each other stand together. And for goodness sakes, don’t get into the drama as soon as you see someone’s demonic, just pull checkmark. Maybe have an email list. Oh, look, this guy’s demonic. I mean, we figured out Stephen Kelly was way like, he attacked me. But then he supposedly had some reason for attacking him and saying a bunch of bullshit lies that we all know. But then he came at me with it with another, you know, side call me a fucking bitch and telling me I’m monetize. I’m like, I really I’ve been doing this for free for 29 years. You fucked hard. So as soon as you recognize that someone’s a demon. Yes, check mark, check mark, move on. No drama, we need to stay the course we need to stay together. We need to support each other. We need to have each other’s backs, share information. Don’t let them do platformers. Again, don’t let us Splinter us all across this planet. And remember, keep our eyes on the prize. All of the politicians 43 out of 46 are 33rd degree secret society, Freemasons, they’re all in on it. Okay. There’s been multiple versions of even Ronald Reagan. I have. I have counseled people who’ve been raised by John Kennedy senior himself. So supposedly Ronald Reagan, Trump, George Bush, senior, all of them, they all have body devils, they all have clones. They’re all in on it. We cannot get sucked into the vortex of destruction. So I’m just going to tell you guys I’m gonna land my plane here. It’s time to unify this is what I’ve been doing for a year and a half. Unite Against communist actually for seven years unite against communism was my hashtag for seven years. And then I changed it to unite against Satanism and now it’s unite against pedophiles. And Emma will remember that, I was like, Yeah, everybody’s like, Oh, everybody knows Casey hates pedophiles. Isn’t that awful? You know, like, oh, no, really? Yeah, I do. I hate pedophiles. I admit it. I’m guilty as charged. So yeah, these people are sociopaths. Their pineal gland has been totally calcified or eaten by parasites, and we are not going to let them sugarcoat it into an alien agenda. These people are wicked, demonic Luciferian. We’re not going to let them off the hook, but stay The course and draw clear delineation between people that tried to destroy, divide us, and separate us out and stay united. All them I put in there, I love you all.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:55:15
And I love you so much. And I swear, it’s like, I was thinking about what you were saying. And it’s like, you know, these people who act in certain ways and just treat each other, like other people like garbage, you know, for whatever reason. It’s this particular flavor of evil that’s like, you know, what we’re godless of like, what you believe in, like, that is fucking demonic. And, you know, in my experience, people like that are literal sociopath, or literal narcissists. And they don’t actually have a functioning, you know, frontal lobe or whatever it is, that provides us physically the ability to feel empathy. And these people like often, like, if they don’t have one, or it’s shrunk, or it doesn’t work correctly, or whatever the case may be. So it’s like they actually physically, physically cannot, you cannot make them because it doesn’t the capability does just doesn’t actually exist. And then once you realize that, it’s like, oh, my gosh, this is like that. Now you know, who you’re up against. It’s like you these people are, they will literally do anything. They have spent more time. For years long before I was ever born, perfecting, hiding, like that is all they do. They spend more time like I would say, like just as much time doing their evil shit. They spend on perfecting how they hide themselves, and they’ve done it for so long and pass down the knowledge while the rest of us don’t remember. Or the you know, then we are like, you know, we die. And then more people are born and yada yada. And people don’t know, but like these societies know, and they’re passing down that knowledge, like who has the leg up? And it’s like, Well, why don’t you go through to the cops? Why don’t you go to through the justice system? It’s like, well, cuz what do you what are they gonna do? You like, you know what I mean? Anyways, I’m off my soapbox, but yeah.

Speaker 13 1:57:51
Hey, Ben, I’ll go after JP. Sorry, guys. Go ahead. JP.

Unknown Speaker 1:58:01
Sorry, guys. I’m

Unknown Speaker 1:58:02
sorry.

Speaker 1 1:58:03
I’ll be here. I’ll be back here in like two minutes.

Speaker 11 1:58:07
Okay, I just wanted to add that. I think there was an inflection point. Not that long ago. You know, a lot of people have, we’re talking about Hunter Biden’s laptop. And you know, hunters a bad guy. I think the Biden’s are family yada, yada, yada. But the real laptop, which has been buried, and sequestered, and long forgotten, is not 100 Hunters laptop.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:58:40
Can I just say interrupt for a second? It’s just like, I’m not sure what hunters laptop has to do with anything, just.

Speaker 11 1:58:51
So my point is, is that the real the real discussion does isn’t around 100 Biden’s laptop, it was Hillary’s laptop via anthony Weiner’s laptop. And I don’t know if anybody recalls But Anthony Weiner had a laptop with a folder in it. That was labeled insurance. And within that folder was a video amongst other content. And has anybody ever heard of the infamous frazzled tour video? Okay, so I saw one hand go up. The price will drip video was a well I encountered me

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 1:59:41
probably we should probably not say that on a platform just because lots of survivors I just maybe let’s not go that direction

Speaker 8 1:59:56
is sacrifice Kim De Graaff sacrifice description can be equated.

Speaker 11 2:00:04
Okay. I’m not going to get into any of the gory details because I did not watch the frazzled Frezzer video. All my point was, is that in each and every one of our lives, I believe, we inevitably come to a point in their lives where there’s a fork in the road. And you can go left, you can go right, you can go up, you can go down. And I had an opportunity of fortune.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 2:00:30
Yeah, sorry, I just removed that speaker. This was a lot of weird.

Speaker 1 2:00:36
Weird. Yeah, we can’t we can’t get political on this. It’s uh, yeah. It’s not a political issue.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 2:00:44
Yeah, it was just kind of, yeah, kind of weird way of thinking to, you know, anyways, go ahead, Casey.

Speaker 12 2:00:53
Yeah, that’s why I come back to it’s time to unite. We have to stop. You know, I, every time I go into these these spaces, you know, it’s like, oh, you know, Gaza versus Israel. I’m like, you realize it’s the same demons attacking both sides, you realize every war that we’ve ever fought has been the same demons? Do you realize every country has been controlled by these demonic people that run the central banking system, and they figured out how to enslave humanity, and then they came for us. And it’s been in our congressional record since 1963. They’re all in on it all comes back to these demon worshipping motherfuckers. And we all have to get to the point where we’re comfortable talking about it, because, you know, I’ve had like, even Christians tell me to shut up. Like, wait, if you’re a Christian, don’t you believe in Satan. And, you know, guess what they’re afraid to. So now that we know that it’s widespread all of the entertainment. So this is what I know. What I know is that I came out 30 years ago and said, you know, that Hollywood was was evil. And nobody believed me. And I kept saying it for 30 years. And I found a whole bunch of people that were brutalized and sexualized in Hollywood, who, who, who came with me and found out that there was someone else who believed them, and found a huge amount of healing. Because there was someone that’s what we do. When we come together, we heal. When we share each other’s stories we heal. Now we have I’m not alone, oh my god, you don’t have that feeling where you’re just like, Oh, I’m the freak. I’m the rape girl on the damaged goods. I’m the psycho. I’m the one that’s just like, the liar, the compulsive liar. That just makes shit up that nobody wants to fucking hear about. And I’m like, now everything that I’ve been saying for all of these years, for since I was seven or eight years old. They’re like, holy shit. There’s evidence. So what I did is I went to my page, and I found all of this stuff I found, you know, my family didn’t believe my, that my uncle raped me. And then I found all the information at that prove that and then the information I found about the corrupt cops. They didn’t believe me, really, Casey, cops molested you, you know, pulled you over and illegally strip searched you in the basement, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, my roommate when I was 17 years old, she pops up out of the grace of God and she’s like, oh, yeah, I was there when she came home and I got that cop fired. So the cops are corrupt. I said the Freemasons were crooked. I really Casey those Freemasons are corrupt like Oh, come on. They do such good work. And I’m like, I don’t know what to tell you. But man I was molested and raped in the Freemason Lodge is the Moose Lodge is the the blue Lodge is the Elks Lodge is all of them. And, and they didn’t believe me. And, and they didn’t believe me when I told them Dean Martin molested me. And then I just found the declassified FBI report that proves that Frank Sinatra with Dean Martin cherry Lewis, Sammy Davis Jr. worked together to form the rat pack with Aleister Crowley to create the satanic head of Hollywood, and that it was always that way. And the same all six major motion picture companies that came and established Hollywood, California and Hollywood, Florida. All of those people in so called Jewish Polish Jewish families, they called it polywood. They weren’t Jews at all, and they weren’t even polish. They’re because Aryan demons, and they were all born within 500 miles of each other. So now I just have an evidence file when somebody comes to me, and they’re like, hey, you know, you can you prove that? Are you just an attention whore like Stephen Kelly just called me an attention whore and a fucking bitch. And all I did was call him out for Daxing Gray. I was like, Dude, that’s not fucking cool. And I already had an inclination that he was, he was a demon. But still, I called I called him out and he full on just went right into his deemed persona and attacked me violently. And so once you know, then that’s why we need to understand that it’s awesome them good and evil, and don’t split hairs. Because the whole political systems gotta calm down. It’s corrupt. We’ve all been under globe martial law for a number of years. And luckily, we’ve got, you know, some really, really good people on this planet working together across continent to bring the demons down, because we know that the secret societies are the troops, secret government. So now that that’s all been exposed, we are going to be the spokespersons, okay? They’re going to be relying upon people like us to stay calm, cool, collected, and speak about the facts. And I have so now on my Twitter page, I used to go into these x spaces, I talk about satanic Hollywood, they would literally laugh me out of the space. And then all of a sudden, you know, the Epstein files drop, and then P Diddy, and they’re like, oh, shit, where’s that Casey sunshine psycho. That was telling us all this shit. And we told her to go fuck off. And so then they come chasing after me. So that’s what we’ve got to do. That’s why we need to us, we need to get better at our network, we need to be more connected. And stop being anonymous and start sharing with somebody that you trust, build a network that we trust, because we’re going to be the ones that have to bring this home, I just joined a group called the Unity project. And we’re going to be singing a song, kind of like we are the world without the satanic celebrities. And we’re going to have a choir of like Ukrainian American Russian children from all over the world. And these are the kinds of projects that I want to be involved in from here on out, I want to be involved in things that unite human beings who love one another and treat each other with love and respect and kindness and who are committed to serving humanity, and helping all of us grow through our trauma, moving through it, getting to our power position, so that we can step into our superpower because you know what, when they tortured us, they tried to make a super soldiers. And when we reclaimed our power, we get to keep our super super soldier training. We’re hyper vigilant, we have photographic memories, we have 44 times visual acuity. We are, we have enhanced stamina. I fucking I’m 59 years old, and I still fucking work 16 hours a day. Because they gave that to me, they gave me super energy. So I’ll take it. And now I’m going to take it and I’m going to use it for good. I’m going to use it to help the community. And I’m going to bring this home with all of you, everybody in this room, we have to come together unite, I don’t care if your left right center. I don’t care what the situation is. As long as you are standing against corruption, pedophilia, and Satanism, we’re on Team humanity. And we cannot let them divide us anymore. We have to just be a broken record of love, acceptance and support for one another. And you come at one of my survivors, Mama bears coming for you. I will rip you apart. I don’t have to do that too often. Because all I have to do is say, keep that up. And you’re gonna be pissed and yourself on the way out of this room. And they get my point. Because we are badasses. We’ve been through shifts that you can’t even fathom, and we survived it. And now we are going to have to bring everybody into the note we’re going to have to, we’re going to have to lovingly bring them into the knowledge of just how corrupt and sick it’s been, and how twisted so that we can rebuild a society. And we have to build it with kindness, love and cooperation, and no more drama. But when they come for you, it’s a compliment. There’s no such thing as bad press. Kerry Cassidy came at me and said that because I was I was an incest survivor. I was a reptilian bloodline, and all this shit man, I called her out personally, and she spent the day shitting herself thinking Oh, my God, Casey sunshine could sue me. But you know what, there’s no such thing as bad press. I got like five different interviews out of that whole debacle. So whenever they come for you, they come for me or they come for gray, whatever, we stand together, we are united, we have each other’s back. And we work together to bring this to fruition against the demons. And we don’t choose sides. If you’re going to stop child trafficking, I’m with you. If you can stop human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse, all that I’m with you. And I’m not going to I’m not going to tolerate anything less than stopping it completely and exposing it 100% I’m not gonna let people tell me to shut up and stop talking about that, because people don’t want to, they don’t want to hear about that shit. Guess what you’re going to fucking hear it about, you’re going to hear about it. If you’re going to be in my presence. You’re going to hear about it because I’m going to expose the truth that children are being tortured, and that we have to help them come back to themselves and heal. Because once that happens, you and I both know that it’s not just oh, I’m all healed. It’s all good. Put a bandaid on that shit. That’s not how it works. So I’m always we need to I’m going to suggest to this room that we need to pick a night, a survivor night and somebody who’s not throttled and I completely canceled on this on this platform. And let’s come back one night a week, all survivors, and we just come together about how our plan is going to be to bring this exposure to the world because it’s, it’s true this is this is the crux of it all. Okay, the Satanism, it controls our politicians, it controls our entertainment, it controls professional sports, and it controls the media and the whole world. And it’s trying to bring in the new world order to enslave humanity. Very. So that’s simple. So let’s unite us come together, no more bickering, no more choosing sides. And, and recognize that unity is the only choice. And love is the way that we do that.

Speaker 13 2:10:42
Thank you. Hi, everybody, this is Debbie has two cats. And I won’t take long. I, I something was said a few minutes ago, that was really, really important. I don’t remember who said it. But fear is a huge factor. And especially for survivors, because that’s one of the first things that we feel. And then they build on the fear, and add a lot of other things on top of the fear. So when we come around and begin to heal, and get out of this, there’s a mountain of fear to deal with and get past. And me and myself. And I, sorry, I have still a lot of fear to get through. So I’m, and I’m stammering over my words. But that’s basically what I have to say we need to help each other to get past the fear. Or, you know, somehow, so because I, I don’t know how to not be afraid. But however, I am willing, and able to learn. So, I love you guys. And with that, I will land the plane. I love that analogy. All right, thanks, guys.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 2:12:53
That was like, that just resonated so hard in night, just, you know, when I was thinking this, you know, Casey, and, and, but like, both of you, and you know, especially you, Casey with, I just was thinking this, and I just wanted to say it because I don’t know, I just I just really feel like I should say this is like you’ve been doing this for so long. And I for years, just, you know, since even before I put two and two together, so to speak, about what everything I went through was, you know, I never thought in a million trillion years that I was going to say anything, publicly. And like, if you had told me that I would have been like, hello. Like, no one’s gonna believe me. And then, you know, I just something in me just kept going. And I just made a few videos. And then I kept going. And, you know, it’s only been a few years since really the start of all this. And I didn’t really have to go through that much comparatively. And you have been trying to do this for like 30 years. And you just kept going. And that is just like you know, thank you. And I’m sorry that you had to go through a very long time before that. We got to this point, and I’m getting emotional, but I’m just I’m very grateful. Like, you know what, it is a point of celebration, and I don’t like I can’t even imagine how difficult it’s been and just thank you and I’m sorry, you had to go through that for so long. And I’m going to mute my mic now. Thank you

Unknown Speaker 2:14:59
Okay

Unknown Speaker 2:15:04
go ahead, Casey. Yeah, I

Speaker 12 2:15:07
just want to say that because of this recent connection and Emma created for all of us, I came to the understanding that my mother was MK Ultra, like she said certain things to me there was certain pieces. That didn’t make sense to me. I knew that that her her, she had become a sociopath. She she never should have had children. I’ve said that many people go like, Oh, no, I’m sure your mom loved you. And I’m like, No, really, she didn’t. People just don’t get it when someone is dead inside. You know, they really, really don’t understand that that happens. And my mother and her mother had just as they were dead inside, my mother should never have had children. And, and so you know, I always call her Mommy dearest and stuff like that. But the truth of the matter was, she was MK Ultra, like hardcore, like she told me, you know, they subjected her to electric shock treatment. She was in a psych ward with Richard Ramirez when he was like a teenager. And I remember the day that I got the call, because I was like a teenager, when my mother had a nervous breakdown because she found out that her buddy Richie, Richard Ramirez, the brutal psycho psychopath serial killer, had chewed off the breasts of this girl named Julie and that he was actually a serial killer and he was her friend. And, and then I also found a podcast that my satanic brother and my mother did recently, thanks to Emma, like, really motivated me to go do some deep dives. And I found this podcast where my mother is telling my brother and a podcast 13 years ago, that hey, they told me that that she was irradiated and electric shock treatment and she took lithium and thalidomide and, and so many drugs that I should have known not to have children because they would, they would all have two heads. And I’m like, on the one hand and infuriated me, because I have five sons and I all have this rare form of muscular dystrophy, that is also my legal last name is Emery e m e ry, and it’s Emery Dreifuss muscular dystrophy. So in all likelihood my mother was experimented upon, and Dr. Emery created in her a devastating effect when she was like 1617. My brother was born when she was 18. And I was born when she was 19. And she promptly abandoned us with the demon that created her sociopathy, her mother, and went back to Hollywood. And knowing that she was going to be subjected to electric shock therapy, that she was going to be hospitalized every nine or 12 months. Under her, you know, psychiatric problems. They wanted her talent in Hollywood, but they didn’t mind you know, it was like, Oh, she’s gonna have a nervous breakdown. That’s very common among the Hollywood starlets. But the thing is, is that the more we share with each other, the more we can actually dig into our truths. Because this is where I found that my mother really was when she told me she’s like, she used to come home after she would disappear. And then I’d have to put her in a psych ward. And she would say, I don’t do drugs, and I don’t, I, I’m not a whore. And she would say this to me over and over again. And I couldn’t figure out what she was saying. But basically, she was being drugged and raped. And she would lose time, because she had multiple personality disorder, which we now know, as di D. So my mother, she was calling me a liar to my face, when I knew what had what I had seen, because she had multiple personalities that literally did not know what the other personalities are doing and saying to me, and so it’s so good to share our stories with each other. Because you’ve come to the place where you can actually really forgive your perpetrators. And forgiveness is such a therapeutic thing for your heart. And it’s just so critically important that you come to this place where you forgive them, you understand that they sold their soul, they didn’t intend that, but because they were had addictive chemistry, and they wanted nothing more than to be rich and powerful, and, and famous, that they made those decisions and it cost them everything, it cost them their soul, and all of their children and, and it’s, it’s that to me is like I am so I can totally forgive them. Because I didn’t lose my soul. My soul is intact. And I can be kind and I can be loving and I can help people and I can serve the greater good and I can go forward in a mission that is for the greater good of humanity. And that’s what helps me sleep at night. But these people can’t. They’re trapped. They’re abused, they’re tortured, and we need to forgive them and see how wounded they are like when people said that trans kids are are meant Oh, no they poisoned or that gay people are crazy. No, they’re poisoned, you know, do some research on AGK 293, just find out how the testosterone levels went from 719 60 to 420 20. And you’ll see how our men have been systematically attacked. So I will land my plane here. But again, I want you guys to know how important we are for each other in our healing, and coming together and being able to connect. And so if anybody is not throttled, and they want to set up a night, where we come together for survivors and share stories, because there are a lot of people, like Deb has two cats that still fear feel so much fear. And if they hang out with people like us, who’ve walked through the fear, and arrived on the other side, and we’re actually looking at it, and we’re actually able to take it apart, like it’s just, you know, a meal that we had yesterday, and we can really heal through it, then everyone finds healing. And when we get all the survivors that have been silenced for many, many decades and years, in their throughout their lifetimes, and they realize that they’re not alone, the power and the strength, and the positivity that we can create together is going to be off the charts. Absolutely off the charts. So I’m just all in there.

Speaker 1 2:21:21
Thank you. I totally agree about picking a night to like all of us, come together and talk about stuff. I just wanted to come up and say that I’m going to be going to bed pretty soon. Um, I don’t know if you want to, like take up as CO hosters or anything but yeah, I’m going to be leaving. And thank you everybody that spoke. And I’ll leave it at that. Thanks.

Kaity aka Stellar Fox 2:21:53
Thank you so much, Caitlin. You like literally saved me when I was just, I had no idea what to say. But I’m totally down also. I don’t think I’m throttled. Hopefully I don’t become throttled but I’d be super down and I think I’m also actually going to head to bed. So and thank you everyone for like joining and everyone who spoke and it turned out to be pretty awesome even though I was super awkward and weird in the beginning and had no idea what to say. So anyways, love you guys. Thank you so much. And thank you Emma and gray and everyone who spoke today

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